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Gailai Griffon Legion - 1000/1500pts
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Old 09 Jan 2006, 23:07   #1 (permalink)
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Default Gailai Griffon Legion - 1000/1500pts

I decided to go and build a very differnt type of regiment from the norm - only to find that the Harakoni Warhawks use the same rules. rofl. So here you are:

Headquarters:

Command Platoon
Command Squad (Carapace Armour) - 143 Points
Senior Officer
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon
Master Vox
3 Veterans (Medic, Standard Bearer, 3 Stormbolters)

Troops:

Infantry Platoon (x2) - 322 Points
Platoon Command Squad (Carapace Armour) - 98 Points
Junior Officer
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon
Vox Caster, Meltagun, Grenade Launcher
Veteran Medic

Infantry Squad (Carapace Armour) - 111 Points
Sergeant, Vox Caster
Heavy Bolter, Plasmagun

Infantry Squad (Carapace Armour) - 111 Points
Sergeant, Vox Caster
Heavy Bolter, Plasmagun

Heavy Support:

Platoon Command Squad (Carapace Armour) - 98 Points
Junior Officer
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon
Vox Caster, 2 Grenade Launchers
Veteran Medic

AT Squad (Missile Launchers, Carapace Armour) -115 Points

Chew up & Spit out at your lesure .
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Old 09 Jan 2006, 23:32   #2 (permalink)
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you havn't given any doctrines. Having those to look at would be a whole lot easier on the mind when it comes to tactics and the actual chewing of the list.
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 00:05   #3 (permalink)
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Bah - can't you just look them up in the Guard codex? Like I said, it's one of the famous regiments lists. That said, I have changed them around slightly - dropping the Special Weapons Squads for Sanctioned Psykers, fluff will be upcoming.

Drop Troops
Carapace Armour
Stormtroopers
Sanctioned Psykers
Heavy Weapons Teams
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 02:21   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry to DP - here (using Doctrines above) are revisions on the 1000 Point list and an expansion to 1500 Points. Again, all C&C are welcome.

Headquarters:Command Squad (Carapace Armour) - 143 Points
Senior Officer
Bolt Pistol, Power Weapon
Master Vox
3 Veterans (Medic, Standard Bearer, 3 Stormbolters)

Troops:
Infantry Platoon (x2) - 321 Points
Platoon Command Squad (Carapace Armour) - 99 Points
Junior Officer
Laspistol, Power Weapon
Vox Caster, Meltagun, Grenade Launcher
Veteran Medic

Infantry Squad (Carapace Armour) - 111 Points
Sergeant, Vox Caster
Heavy Bolter, Plasmagun

Infantry Squad (Carapace Armour) - 111 Points
Sergeant, Vox Caster
Heavy Bolter, Plasmagun

Heavy Support:
Platoon Command Squad (Carapace Armour) - 99 Points
Junior Officer
Laspistol, Power Weapon
Vox Caster, Meltagun, Grenade Launcher
Veteran Medic

Anti-Tank Team (Missile Launchers, Carapace Armour) -115 Points

Total: 1000 Points


Armoured Fist Squad (Carapace) - 191 Points
Sergeant, Vox Caster
Plasmagun
Chimera w/ Autocannon, Heavy Bolter

Fire Support Team (Autocannons, Carapace) - 115 Points
Anti-Tank Team (Missile Launchers, Carapace) - 115 Points

Griffon Mortar - 75 Points

Total: 1496 Points
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 05:47   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Gailai Griffon Legion - 1000/1500pts

not doing TOO much chewing or spitting here ;D, but the biggest thing I can think of as questionable is the carapace armour upgrades...

that's a lot of points that could turn into a tank or something. It really depends on who you plan on going up against, right? If most of your opponent's weapons are AP5 then go with it, but some armies 'standard' weapon will blast you to pulp with or without the carapace. I always bean count with things like this, so feel free to ignore this comment, but I would rather have a tank than a 1-better save on a bunch of lasgunners who just stand in the way protecting your real weapons most of the time anyways.

If you are considering the Harakoni Warhawk "drop troops" variant then I suggest figuring out some way to work an "improved coms" upgrade for a vehicle - so that they can actually show up when you want them to.

I dunno the rules for a griffin mortar but it costs only 75 pts?? I have heard many folks say that it is the best indirect weapon in the guard - but I only use codex GW stuff, and only ever fought against one - owned by an ork player - and it died on turn 1 before I could see it doing its thing.

If that tank is cheaper than a Chim I would be very surprised and even more suspicious of the ForgeWorld (or whoever else makes these overpriced unbalance-the-game-to-sell-more-models people).

Get rid of a couple of your carapace, and fix yourself up with that improved coms. Drop troops should have it. Your entire game will benefit.

I dont use droptroops on principle. I wonder why it is one of the two 'freebie' options. (the other being close order drill... which I can understand being free - because it just leads to template tragedies, but it (extremely)occasionally helps)

I guess droptroops are okay for people if they have nothing to do with their remaining doctrines alotment, but it is more or less a gimmick, and doesnt make for a fun game... ("hmm... when are you going to deploy something so we can start shooting?") ("well I guess when I roll right?")
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Old 10 Jan 2006, 17:03   #6 (permalink)
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I wanted something radically different from the norm of Guard... no armour (I've rewritten the 1500 point list - no more Chimeras or the Griffon... whose low cost can be justified by the fact that it only has the firepower of a Submuniton - not bad, but not as 'uber' as the Russ it competes with for an HS slot.)

IIRC, the Doctrines area states that if you can equip one unit with an upgrade, you MUST equip all of them with it. I would take an Arvus Lighter if the darn thing could take comms - fits better with fluff, and it's dirt cheap.

I'm not realy trying for an overly deadly tournament list, just something fun and playable. Thanks for the critique, I suppose it is difficult to give an opinion on something so plainly wierd, though.

Oh, and the revised 1500 List:

2 Sentinels (Autocannons, Armoured Crew, Extra Armour) - 140pts
2 Sentinels (Autocannons, Armoured Crew, Extra Armour) - 140pts

Mortar Team (Carapace) - 100pts
AT Team (Missile Launchers, Carapace) - 115pts

For a total of 1495.

And for 1750:
Sanctioned Psyker - 62pts
Honourifica Mundanus, Force Weapon

10 Stormtroopers (Deepstrike) - 186pts
Meltabombs, 2 Plasmaguns
Sergeant w/ Power Weapon
Vox-Caster
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