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Old 04 Dec 2005, 00:06   #1 (permalink)
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Valhallan 1850 Point Army List Total points:1832
HQ
Command Platoon:111

Command Squad:111
Heroic Senior Officer:76
Power Weapon
Bolt Pistol
Master-Vox w/ lasgun
Mortar Team
Guardsman w/ lasgun

Elites:250

Hardened Veterans:125
Veteran Sgt.(Bolt Pistol and CCW) and 9 Veterans(lasguns)
3 Grenade Launchers
Frags
Vox-Caster

Hardened Veterans:125
Veteran Sgt.(Bolt Pistol and CCW) and 9 Veterans(lasguns)
3 Grenade Launchers
Frags
Vox-Caster

Troops:726

Platoon 1:263

Command Squad:71
Junior Officer:56
Bolt Pistol and CCW
Mortar Team
Vox-caster

Squad 1:96
Veteran Sgt(laspistol and CCW) and 9 Guardsmen
Lascannon team
Vox-Caster

Squad 2:96
Veteran Sgt(laspistol and CCW) and 9 Guardsmen
Lascannon team
Vox-Caster

Platoon 2:263

Command Squad:
Junior Officer:56
Bolt Pistol and CCW
Mortar Team
Vox-caster

Squad 1:96
Veteran Sgt(laspistol and CCW) and 9 Guardsmen
Lascannon team
Vox-Caster

Squad 2:96
Veteran Sgt(laspistol and CCW) and 9 Guardsmen
Lascannon team
Vox-Caster

Conscript Platoon 1:200
5 Squads of 10 Conscripts (50 Conscripts)

Fast Attack:230

Hellhound:115

Hellhound:115

Heavy Support:515

Leman Russ:165
Hull-mounted Lascannon
Heavy Bolter Sponsons

Leman Russ:165
Hull-mounted Lascannon
Heavy Bolter Sponsons


Leman Russ Demolisher:185
Hull-mounted Lascannon
Plasma Cannon Sponsons

How is it? Any feedback/suggestions/comments would be appreciated.
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Old 04 Dec 2005, 00:53   #2 (permalink)
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Looks good. Is this your first time doing guard? I think you messed up on a couple of points values, the JO with CCW+boltpistel is quite a bit less than 56 pts. Also, when giving upgrades to a character, it makes it a little bit easier to read if you go like:

Junior Officer, bolt pistol, close combat weapon (list the upgrades next to the unit entry)

Also, what doctrines are you using besides Veterans? Be sure to list 'em.
Now finally onto your army composition. I noticed an awful lot of mortars, which will be... interesting against a horde army. Just get the ranging down pat. I like the lascannons in each squad, 4 of them each turn, ouch! I'm thinking you might want to put some autocannons/lascannons in your vet squads. I have seen the good BS/high strength weapon combo work out great on vehicle heavy and high toughness troop armies, like chaos. But it's your army, you pick what you want!
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Well, due to the rule about all guns in a squad firing at teh same target [Blah blah blah] I would make a seperate AT squad and keep the squads with FS weapons. You also need more flamers! Flamers are not only a trademark, they are useful in the conscripts squad with poor BS.
The mortars would also do better in a designated squad, as the grouping will be a lot more efficient.

A commissar would spice things up a bit, and in case 'something horrible' happens to your HSO, Ld. 10 going to every squad ain't bad...

I would take out a hellhound. They are useful, but I never needed to use 'em, and 2 may be suckin' up the old points. Its hard to earn back teh points of one if it gets blown up 24" away, but 2?

Other than that, looks awesome, and I cannot wait for piccies once you get some models!
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keep the hellhounds, they draw so much fire from tau players when you say that it's a 24" flamer templater chucker at AP4...

i would suggest using mortar teams in your cammond platoon, as they then use the barrage rule.. you can saturate a place with 6 templates (with two teams) and for that point value it's pretty good...
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You also need more flamers! Flamers are not only a trademark, they are useful in the conscripts squad with poor BS.
Don't listen to him, you never give your conscripts anything, they are their to die so let them do it without a bunch of crap weighing them down.
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A commissar would spice things up a bit, and in case 'something horrible' happens to your HSO, Ld. 10 going to every squad ain't bad...
listen to him. especially since you have conscripts, they are useless without a bravery bolter around.
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I'm following Valhallan Tactics and fluff. They don't use conscripts to just be cannon fodder-the conscripts, fluff-wise, are supposed to form a large infantry assault while my heavy weapons pound away. I'm modfiying the army later today. I'll have it posted when I get home from school.
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either way, no commissar=no conscripts. they'll run on the second turn.
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True, the Conscripts are what the Red Army used in the defence of Moscow: poorly trained civilians given a gun and told to charge the German line. They usaully died, and had bad equipment, and aim, and pretty much no-one cared about them. They were expendable.
Valhallans do the same thing, becasue... its cheap!

Not only is a Commissar good in game terms, they were created from the Red Army commissars, which were well-equipped party officials who were assigned to units to ensure loyalty and duty. Hence a commissar becomes a Commissar.
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have you seen enemy at the gates? world war two movie about a russian conscript who ends up as a sniper. they grab a bunch of people off the farms, then they give every other guy a rifle. thats right half the soldiers get weapons the other half are told to follow and pick up the rifle when(yes he says, when) the other guy dies. atleast the imperium arm all of their conscripts(arguably, since lasguns are barely weapons)
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Lasguns are more powerful than any currently used weapon, so stop dissing them.
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