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How does this 1850pt. mechanized imperial guard army look?
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Old 20 Nov 2005, 23:07   #1 (permalink)
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Default How does this 1850pt. mechanized imperial guard army look?

I've decided to try an imperial guard army that is fully mechanised, so here it is:

Doctrines:

mechanised
Storm trooper squads
Conscript Platoons

HQ:

1 heroic Senior Officer- 70pts.

1 commissar- 40pts.

1 mortar support squad- 80pts.

1 Anti tank support squad- 110pts.
3 lascannon

1 squad of 2 cadian pattern sentinels- 100pts.

TROOPS:

Alpha Platoon-

junior officer w/ missile launcher- 55pts.

commissar- 40pts.

squad 1- 170pts.
-missile launcher
-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 2- 170pts.
-missile launcher
-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 3- 180pts.
-missile launcher
-plasma gun
-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 4- 180pts.
-missile launcher
-plasma gun
-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 5- 180pts.
-missile launcher
-plasma gun
-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

HEAVY SUPPORT-

2 Leman russ battle tank- 330pts.
-hull mounted lascannons
-side sponsons of heavy bolter

1 leman russ demolish- 185pts.
-hull mounted lascannon
-side sponsons of plasma cannon

TOTAL: 1850pts.

Please rate and fix this army. thanks!
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 03:25   #2 (permalink)
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3rd army gone mechanized in the last 24 hours... wow! Please remove the individual points price off your units. We could all get in trouble for it... although I am guilty of the same crime... :P
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 04:31   #3 (permalink)
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please only post points costs for whole squads, not just individula models, such as include the commisaas cost into the command squads please, but anyway, i like the bog satndard kit to max out on squads... sounds really good...
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 11:36   #4 (permalink)
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According to the codex, the command squads, Mortar squad, and AT squad must take Chimeras when mechanized. Additionally, your have only one troops choice. You could swap out an infantry squad for an armored fist squad and fix that pretty easily. However, that still leaves you short four Chimeras.

And given that the army is likely to be all over the place, as befits their mounted status, you're probably better off dropping the commissars in favor of a Vox net.

And just as an aside, a Junior Officer with an Honorifica Imperialis is actually a few points cheaper than a HSO. And since your commander's got no other wargear anyway, you don't need to worry about exceeding his limit.
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 19:04   #5 (permalink)
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so in a mechanized army, you can only take armoured fist, and must take a chimera for the command squad?
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 19:12   #6 (permalink)
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so in a mechanized army, you can only take armoured fist, and must take a chimera for the command squad?
With mechanized, you still have to take at least one standard platoon (at least 2 standard squads and one command squad) as one of your troop choices. But all of them must have chimeras (they don't have to ride in them, but you do have to have them on the board). So, a mechanized army would normally have at least five chimeras: 3 for the platoon, 1 for an armored fist squad, and one for the HQ choice.
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Old 21 Nov 2005, 23:11   #7 (permalink)
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so in a mechanized army, you can only take armoured fist, and must take a chimera for the command squad?
Oh, dear.

I'm afraid that this indicates a lack of a single very important facet in designing your army: You must first read the rules. All the rules. Unfortunately, us guys (and I'm guilty of it too from time to time) have a hard time reading all the rules before we jump right in. It afflicts us in many areas of our lives. Model car kits, garage door openers, self-assembled computer furniture or entertainment centers, the list goes on.

march10k has effectively answered this question, so I won't reiterate his answer. But I will bang this drum just a little bit longer. When sitting down to do something like army design, you must first read the codex. The whole codex (meaning the rules portion--the fluff can come later). Don't cherrypick pieces of information you think are cool. Don't skim, thinking you don't need to know a certain thing. Read the whole thing. Then go back and start into your list.

Don't get me wrong. I do it too. I'm just as much a guy as most everyone else on this list, and sometimes it's incredibly hard to just sit down and do the initial reading, especialy when I'm really excited to get into army-building. But it's a task that simply must be done.

The codex (and rulebook, for that matter) is horribly organized. There are pieces of information you're not going to find unless you've actually read the thing, rather than skim for the section headings. Most notably in this instance, the sidebar indicating that you can only take one AF squad per Infantry platoon, and the definition of "Guard Infantry" in the doctrines section, which is easily the clearest, and yet most often questioned, rules bit in the codex.

Read the rules, man.
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 00:00   #8 (permalink)
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ok, how does the army look now?

HQ:

squad 1- 205pts.

1 heroic Senior Officer

1 commissar

1 chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter and pintle mounted storm bolter


TROOPS:

Alpha Platoon-

HQ squad- 175pts.

junior officer w/ missile launcher

commissar

chimera w/ multi laser

squad 1-* *170pts.
* *-missile launcher
* *-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 2- 170pts.
* *-missile launcher
* *-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 3- 180pts.
* *-missile launcher
* *-plasma gun
* *-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

squad 4- 180pts.
* *-missile launcher
* *-plasma gun
* *-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter

Armoured Fist squad- 180pts.
-missile launcher
-plasma gun
-chimera w/ multi laser, heavy bolter, and pintle mounted storm bolter


HEAVY SUPPORT-

2 Leman russ battle tank-* 330pts.
* *-hull mounted lascannons
* *-side sponsons of heavy bolter

1 leman russ demolish-* 185pts.
* *-hull mounted lascannon
* *-side sponsons of plasma cannon

TOTAL: 1830pts.
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 02:37   #9 (permalink)
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Default Re: How does this 1850pt. mechanized imperial guard army look?

You've still missed one of the rules from the codex - the Force Organisation Chart. For a legal army, you need to take at least one HQ choice and two troops choices. You only have one troops choice. Fortunately, there's an easy solution that Captain Austin suggested - you can take one of your infantry squads from your platoon and field it as an armoured fist squad instead.
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Old 22 Nov 2005, 22:21   #10 (permalink)
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I just made the change. How does it look now?
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