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Old 07 Oct 2005, 09:52   #1 (permalink)
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If i build a take-all comers list, which do you think would be better? i'm rather new to this, so some advice would help

1 infantry platoon [325]
Junior officer
4 guardsmen
1 grenade launcher
1 heavy bolter
w/ Chimaera
Multilaster, heavy bolter, pintle mounted heavy stubber

Infantry Squad
1 heavy bolter
1 autocannon

Infantry squad
1 heavy bolter
1 autocannon

5 Storm troopers [75]
infiltrate
2 plasma guns

Strategy here would just to sit back and shoot, with storm troopers harassing, the chimaera is just a static firebase and can also be used to transport the guardsmen to where they need to be

Another list would be

Infantry platoon [250]
junior officer
4 guardsmen
1 heavy bolter

Infantry Squad
1 heavy bolter
1 autocannon

Infantry Squad
1 heavy bolter
1 autocannon

Remnant squad
5 guardsmen

Storm trooper squad [75]
Infiltrate
2 x plasma gun


Storm trooper squad [75]
Infiltrate
2 x plasma gun

This has 10 more men then the other list, but is lacking in the firepower from the chimaera, to replace them the infiltrating storm troopers with plasma guns could probably do the job, but they are more vulnerable and less useful against horde armies.
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I'd recommend swapping the plasma weapons with melta weapons, granted they are shorter range but they have a higher strength, are AP1 and don't overheat!!

I'd recommend at least 1 lascannon and maybe 1 or 2 missile launchers.

Personally I'd go with the second list as it has more models and Guard need all the firpower they can get, from whatever resources.

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i would take the missile launchers, but keep in mind that combat patrol has a maximum of 33 for AV of vehicles (that is, all 3 sides), thus the highest AV vehicle would probably be the chimaera and i don't see the point of using a lascannon to destroy transports when a autocannon will probably get the job done. Also, the max armour save is 3+ so ap1 meltaguns don't really do much more then plasma guns which can rapid fire. Anyhow, since you recommended it i'll probably go with the second list.

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i would take the missile launchers, but keep in mind that combat patrol has a maximum of 33 for AV of vehicles (that is, all 3 sides)
Didn't realise this, my mistake.

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Also, the max armour save is 3+ so ap1 meltaguns don't really do much more then plasma guns which can rapid fire.
True, but they don't overheat and kill your own men.

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Anyhow, since you recommended it i'll probably go with the second list.
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Infantry Squad
1 heavy bolter
1 autocannon
firstly its an illegal army list...

you're only allowed one heavy weapon per squad...

i'd suggest using autocannons to every squad... just because they can beat anything in combat patrol...

i use a totally different list in my combat patrol, because people hate chimera's basically the toughest thing you'll come aross (apart from the falcon grav-tank) and it can pump out godlike amounts of firepower (multi-laser/heavy bolter/heavy stubber, or heavy bolter/heavy bolter/heavy stubber) thats 9 shots a turn pumping into a squad, not many tanks can do that...

heres my list, it has never been defeated:

Storm Trooper Squad – 126pts
Veteran Sergeant Eirik with Plasma Pistol and Chainsword.
6 Storm Troopers with Hellguns,
2 Storm Troopers with Plasma Guns,
Frag and Krak Grenades, Targeters.

Chimera Transport – 98pts
Chimera with Turret-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Hull-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Pintle-Mounted Heavy Stubber, Searchlight.

Armoured Fist Squad – 83pts
Sergeant Valgard with Laspistol and Chainsword.
1 Guardsman with Grenade Launcher.
1 Guardsman with Missile Launcher.
7 Guardsmen with Lasguns.

Chimera Transport – 97pts
Chimera with Turret-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Hull-Mounted Heavy Bolter, Pintle-Mounted Heavy Stubber.

Total: 405pts
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that is a great list, tefnik. I hate it when people insist on violating the points limit, though. What's so hard about going a few points under instead of a few points over?
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Id go with missile launchers, they'll take care of any vehicles you might encounter will instant kill any SM necrons or crisis suits you might find and you can also fire frag missiles which should take care of stuff like nids and orks. Personally i think the missile launcher is the best overall heavy weapon especially in combat patrols.
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that is a great list, tefnik.* I hate it when people insist on violating the points limit, though.* What's so hard about going a few points under instead of a few points over?
i usually take off the grenade launcher, that was the list i used against a guy who was 10 pts over... usually the list doesn't have a grenade launcher
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This is just a thought but have any of you thought that you don't have to use storm troopers? there is such thing as a army with no storm troopers. Try using variations of no storm troopers and keep the list simple for the reason it is a small skirmish not a full scale battle so cool it with the heavy weapons also. And a sentinel or 2 works real well in in these size battles and for configs i would say use a multi laser or autocannon. having said that my army is no more than 1 platoon the JO squad and a sentinel and in 1 year it has only been beat 2 times out of about 15 games i have played with it.
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Mines made completely from storm troopers, and Ive never lost. I dont use this list against necrons or space marines though, i use loads of conscripts and missile launchers for them.
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