[BlackTemplar40K]

HQ
Command Squad
Bolter
Master of Ordnance
Caripace Armor
1 Bodyguard


117 Points
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Elite

Storm Trooper
Power Weapon
95 Points

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Platoon Commander
Bolt Gun
3 Sniper Rifles
47 Points
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Troops

Infatry Squad
Flamer

55 Points
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Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher

55 Points
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Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher
(Transported in Valkyrie)
55 Points
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Heavy Weapon Squad
Missle Launcher
Missle Launcher
Autocannon

85

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Valkyrie
Lascannon upgrade

115 Points

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Basilisk

125 Points


---- 749 Points ----

or

HQ
Command Squad
Bolter
Master of Ordnance
1 Bodyguard

97 Points
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Elite

Ratling Snipers
90 Points

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Platoon Commander
Bolt Gun
3 Sniper Rifles
47 Points
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Troops

Infatry Squad
Flamer

55 Points

Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher

50 Points

Infantry Squad
Grenade Launcher

55 Points


Heavy Weapon Squad
Missle Launcher
Mortar
Mortar

70

Heavy Weapon Squad
Missle Launcher
Autocannon
Lascannon

90
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Heavy

Leman Russ
Lascannon
Heavy Bolters (sides)
Stormbolter

195

--- 749 Points ---

[Shasel_Aunat]

I prefer your first list over the second one, but I have some C&C for it as well.

In your HQ drop the Bodyguard and get some points back. With the Carapace the squad will be fine. With the points put in a special or heavy weapons.

On your Storm Troopers drop the Power Weapon and add some Special Weapons. ST's are made to Deep Strike and shoot, not assault.

Other than that, I think it could work.

[BlackTemplar40K]

Originally Posted by Aunny

I prefer your first list over the second one, but I have some C&C for it as well.

In your HQ drop the Bodyguard and get some points back. With the Carapace the squad will be fine. With the points put in a special or heavy weapons.

On your Storm Troopers drop the Power Weapon and add some Special Weapons. ST's are made to Deep Strike and shoot, not assault.

Other than that, I think it could work.

Oddly enough, I put the power weapon in the Trooper squad, because I have found people rushing that squad, because they were not meant for close combat. It pays off.

I played out the first army list here, and other than a drop pod tying up my HQ unit (dreadnought walked out and kept me busy) I did fine. cover saves kept his scouts alive, and his dread was in close combat with my HQ (he was rolling bad, and only killed one at a time) I cleared the board.

I still want to run the second list out, see if I can just out shoot the Marines a bit.

[33rd Sirican Redbacks]

I recently ran a list that had autocannons and missile launchers in troops squads (my opponent was orks), heavy weapons squads only come into there own in larger games, and infantry squad with an autocannon or missile launcher costs the same as a stock squad from the last dex, also the lascannon on the Valkyrie is a waste, give it rocket pods, as it can move 12 and fire both rocket pods and the multi laser, great horde killer, and will kill a few marines due to the amount of saves it forces.