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Old 21 Nov 2008, 05:51   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2,500 points of tanks and tanks

I don't know where I'll roll tomorrow...

HQ - 283

Command Russ Tank - 283
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers, hunter-killer missile, company commander's vehicle, track guards

ELITES - 478

Ace Exterminator - 240
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers, pintle-mounted heavy-stubber, sponson-mounted heavy-bolters, hunter-killer missile

Ace Russ Tank - 238
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers, hunter-killer missile

TROOPS - 990

Leman Russ Exterminator - 175
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers, pintle-mounted heavy-stubber, sponson-mounted heavy-bolters

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

FAST ATTACK - 270

Hell-hound - 135
w/ extra armour, smoke launchers, pintle-mounted heavy stubber

Hell-hound - 135
w/ extra armour, smoke launchers, pintle-mounted heavy stubber

HEAVY SUPPORT - 489

Leman Russ Demolisher - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

Leman Russ Demolisher - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

Leman Russ Demolisher - 163
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, extra armour, smoke launchers

14 models at 2.5k; yay or nay?
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Old 21 Nov 2008, 06:24   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2,500 points of tanks and tanks

Your commander and one ace slot are wasted. Move the Exterminator up to your command tank, switch teh lascannon for a heavy bolter and use vanquishers or destoryer tank hunters as tank aces. You've also got too much crap on your tanks. Extra Armour, track guards and especially HK missiles are usually wasted points.

Just remember, this army has almost no capability to win objective games. You're going to have to wipe out the opposing army in those matches to win.
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Old 21 Nov 2008, 07:06   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2,500 points of tanks and tanks

I would drop the HK missles since they are kinda wasted points and make the Commander a Vanquisher, and the two Tank Aces should be Exterminators.
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Old 21 Nov 2008, 07:44   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2,500 points of tanks and tanks

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Just remember, this army has almost no capability to win objective games. You're going to have to wipe out the opposing army in those matches to win.
Really? I read it as troop choices, not troop units that count as scoring. I'll go and check. The rest of these suggestions sound right, I'll change the list when I have more time. Extra armour seems worth taking though.
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Old 21 Nov 2008, 08:09   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2,500 points of tanks and tanks

Troop Choice that are INFANTRY and not Swarms are the only ones that counts as Scoring Units. Maybe some Armored Fist Squads in your Troop Choice?
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Old 21 Nov 2008, 08:16   #6 (permalink)
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That's a bummer. I'm not really interested in this army anymore. AV14 scoring units was my main attraction to it.
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Old 22 Nov 2008, 03:34   #7 (permalink)
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10 pie plates for on average 2-3 objectives in a game isn't appealing? You have to ask who would even try to take an objective with that much firepower around? I would put 2-3 armored fist squads in there to cap objectives and take out the Hellhounds. Also HK is useless considering how many battle cannons you have. The only benefit to the HK is unlimited range, but unless you play on a board more than 6 feet long you'll never be out of range. You can definitely free up a lot of points in that list to make it much more effective.
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Old 23 Nov 2008, 01:34   #8 (permalink)
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Sure he can deny objetictives, but he can never take them. Make many games impossible to get a victory in.
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Old 23 Nov 2008, 01:40   #9 (permalink)
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Actually, if I used Death Korps models I might be more interested... I mostly don't like armoured fists for the same reason I don't like other guard infantry; the cadian models look dull to me, and also difficult to paint (so many faces!!!). I wouldn't consider doing a normal, infantry heavy death korps army due to the cost, but two or three squads I can afford.

Edit; my working list, with no armoured fist squads. I'll probably want to take three of them.

HQ - 273

Command Leman Russ Vanquisher - 275
w/ hull-mounted las-cannon, company commander's vehicle

ELITES - 444

Ace Leman Russ Exterminator - 222
hull-mounted las-cannon, pintle-mounted heavy-stubber, sponson-mounted heavy-bolters

Ace Exterminator - 222
hull-mounted las-cannon, pintle-mounted heavy-stubber, sponson-mounted heavy-bolters

TROOPS - 1070

Vanquisher Leman Russ Battle - 190
hull-mounted heavy bolter, sponson-mounted heavy bolters

Vanquisher Leman Russ Battle - 190
hull-mounted heavy bolter, sponson-mounted heavy bolters

Vanquisher Leman Russ Battle - 190
hull-mounted heavy bolter, sponson-mounted heavy bolters

Vanquisher Leman Russ Battle - 190
hull-mounted heavy bolter, sponson-mounted heavy bolters

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 155
hull-mounted heavy bolter, sponson-mounted heavy bolters

Leman Russ Battle Tank - 155
hull-mounted heavy bolter, sponson-mounted heavy bolters

FAST ATTACK - 245

Hell-hound - 127
pintle-mounted heavy stubber

Hell-hound - 127
pintle-mounted heavy stubber

HEAVY SUPPORT - 468

Leman Russ Demolisher - 156
hull-mounted las-cannon, searchlight

Leman Russ Demolisher - 156
hull-mounted las-cannon, searchlight

Leman Russ Demolisher - 156
hull-mounted las-cannon, searchlight

Edit 2 - Goddamnit, armoured fist squads are a fast attack selection in the GW list. I'm going to check the forgeworld one, but I'm pretty sure that means that under 5th addition, armoured company has NO WAY to EVER capture an objective.

Edit 3 - Okay, armoured fists are troops in the forge world list. Give me a minute to read through this.
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Old 23 Nov 2008, 02:13   #10 (permalink)
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Sure he can deny objetictives, but he can never take them. Make many games impossible to get a victory in.
You absolutely can, that's what AF squads are for.
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