[kreative]

Hey

Well I have been going through guard list after guard list trying to find one that I like and is effective, and after a few lists here's my most recent one which I am liking. If you comment (please do) don't suggest anything tank related, as I'm set on an all infantry list. I also have a question... see end of post.

1000 Point Imperial Guard Guard

Doctrines
- Heavy Weapon Platoons
- Special Weapon Squads
- Veterans
- Close Order Drill
- Iron Disipline


HQ

Command Squad
Iron Disipline
Junior Officer
-Bolt Pistol
-Power Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-4x Grenade Launchers
83 Points

Special Weapons Team
6 Guardsmen
-3 Lasguns
-3 Flamers
62 Points

Elites

Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Plasma Guns
83 Points

Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Meltaguns
83 Points

Troops

1st Platoon
Command platoon
Iron Disipline
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Missile Launcher Team
60 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
78 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
78 Points

2nd Platoon
Command platoon
Iron Disipline
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Missile Launcher Team
68 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
-Grenade Launcher
83 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
-Grenade Launcher
83 Points

3rd Platoon
Iron Disipline
Command platoon
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-4 Grenade Launchers
77 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Lascannon Team
85 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Lascannon Team
85 Points

1000 Points
98 models
2 missile launchers
2 Lascannons
2 Autocannons
12 Grenade Launchers

Should I bother having a ccw + laspistol Sergeants in my 10 man troop squads or should I just give them lasguns as well?

EDIT: New list! and also added the one question.

[Hoarday]

If you're gonna go for the leadership vox web, you might a well go the whole nine yards and make it a heroic senior so you get Ld 10 across the board.

The vetern squad with the flamers is a huge waste. You may as well have just taken a special weapon squad, would have been cheaper, better placement time and it isnt wasting an elite slot.

The infantry squads are decent, but you've only got one anti-tank weapon on the board, drop the GL out of that squad, and turn some of those HB/GL squads into missiles or lascannons.

[arguleon-veq]

Originally Posted by kreative

HQ

Command Squad
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Master Vox
66 Points

Nice, a good LD booster.

[b]Commissar{/b]
1 Commissar
-Close Combat Weapon, Las Pistol
40 Points

I dont really see the point in him to be honest. I doubt he'll be all that handy, your Command HQ should stay well hidden anyway.

Elites
Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Flamers
-Vox Caster
76 Points

Flamers are wasted here. You want to use their better BS Skill. Go for another 3 Plas and maybe a Lascannon.

Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Plasma Guns
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Fine

Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Meltaguns
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Fine

Troops

1st Platoon
Command platoon
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Missile Launcher Team
-1 Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
68 Points

I don't see a lot of point in the Grenade Launcher it wont hurt what the Missiles will be shooting at. The only time they are really useful is when you pack a Command Squad full of them. I'd drop it and save the points.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
83 Points

The Grenade Launcher is ok here. You don't want too many squads like this though.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
83 Points

I'd leave this as the max for these squads.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
83 Points

You need some Lascannon support. You will have a hard time popping AV 14 without it. Just stick a lone Las in here.

2nd Platoon
Command platoon
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Missile Launcher Team
-1 Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
68 Points

Either drop the Grenade Launcher, or drop the Missiles and get 4 Grenade Launchers. That way you can engage enemy transports. Or just bust tanks with the Missiles.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Go for the Plas with the Autocannon. It's best to keep the strength of your weapons equal. They can both hurt AV 13 with this set up. Plus your lacking in low AP weapons. Termies, Daemon Princes, Nid Monsters, Oblits and anything with Artificier armour your going to find nearly impossible to kill without some low AP weapons. Those things will tear up your lines in no time.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Plasma.

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Flat Lascannon.

1007 Points
94 models

So heres the list I'd use -

HQ

Command Squad
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Master Vox
66 Points

Elites
Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Plasma
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Plasma Guns
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Hardened Veterans
1 Veteran Sergeant
-Lasgun
5 Veterans
-2 Lasguns
-3 Meltaguns
-Vox Caster
88 Points

Troops

1st Platoon
Command platoon
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-Missile Launcher Team
-Vox Caster
60 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
83 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Heavy Bolter Team
-Grenade Launcher
-Vox Caster
83 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
- Lascannon
-Vox Caster
90 Points

2nd Platoon
Command platoon
Junior Officer
-Las Pistol, Close Combat Weapon
4 Staff Guardsmen
-4 Grenade Launchers [Just somewhere to put all theones you get in the boxes really]
-Vox Caster
77 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
-Plasma Gun
-Vox Caster
90 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
-Autocannon Team
- Plasma Gun
-Vox Caster
90 Points

Infantry Squad
Sergeant
-Las Pistol
-Close Combat Weapon
9 Guardsmen
- Lascannon
-Vox Caster
90 Points

993 Points

[kreative]

Ok, Thanks for the comments guys, I have made changes and kept some comments in mind.

The reason I didn't go for the plasma guns in the autocannon teams is that I don't want to have to buy more of those darned blister packs, and grenade launchers are relitivly close strength. Plus, my autocannons should be shooting at infantry alot, as I don't see many tanks/big bugs in my area, so grenade launchers will prove usefull there.

One major change is I dropped all the vox casters. I was under the wrong impression with the commisar thing, so I will use vox's and herioc senious in the bigger point games, in these ones I'll stick to relying on my leadership bubble from the command platoons.

[arguleon-veq]

Yeah, if price is an issue then fair enough on the Grenade Launchers. Although you can get them for about £1 on mail order.

Give the sergeants lasguns. I dont see much point at all in that Flamer squad, I suppose it could come in handy against a Nid horde player or Ork player that gets careless.

I'd probably lose that power weapon too.

[kreative]

Hey

Thanks for the reply again, been really helpful, finually comming to a list that I am really happy with.

I agree with those suggestions, and done some last changes to the list thats in the first post:

-Removed power weapon from Junior Officer
-Removed special weapons squad with the flamers
=Changed CCW+las Pistols on sergeants to lasguns
+Added 4 more guardsmen with lasguns to the hardened veteran squads, bring them both to 10 guardsmen

so.. thanks alot guys. If anyone wants to make any more comments please feel free to.