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Old 16 Aug 2005, 13:04   #1 (permalink)
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My mate has a big ork army and wants to start collecting a few armys starting with core choices and the codex the adding along is this sensible?
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Old 16 Aug 2005, 13:08   #2 (permalink)
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If he can afford it, yes. But a basic army costs about 40 minimum (18 for a box of troops, plus an 8 commander model, plus a 10-12 codex), so, by starting with a couple of radically different forces, he might find which forces sutis him best, then concentrate on that main force.
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Supose I was wondering if its a sensible way to stay happy
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Old 16 Aug 2005, 13:27   #4 (permalink)
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You're certainly avoid boredom!

The main drag about collecting one army is that after the first few squads you start to get very very very bored of them. They keep on coming in a never ending wave of unpainted models, and soon it stops being fun and becomes a chore (and your quality of painting may suffer).

With multiple armies, you can switch to another army when you start getting bored. Maybe it'll take longer to get them all done, but it's more fun and infact you might finish them a little bit faster since you're more willing to actuall sit down and paint!

If he can afford it and is willing to paint lots of models then he should go for it.

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Old 16 Aug 2005, 13:30   #5 (permalink)
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I like variety. *Playing the same army over and over gets boring.

There are a couple ways to aleviate this.

1) Collect one army to the extreme. *Meaning that, over time, you build it to the point where you have 3 of every possible elite unit, six of every possible troop choice, and so on. *This way, you can always assemble the same army, but in different ways, trying new units, etc.

2) Collect multiple armies. *So that you have a few different choices what to play.

Either way is good. *Some people prefer depth in one (or more) army, while others prefer to design 1500 point lists for 5 armies, and that's all they get from those armies.

Stay happy? *Guess that depends what causes happiness. *Is he happy when he has something to paint, or is he happy when he has something completed? *
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Well to play devil's advocate. Sometimes I like to fine tune one army so that it is JUST the way I want it.
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My mate has a big ork army and wants to start collecting a few armys starting with core choices and the codex the adding along is this sensible?
It really depends on your friend. People are different. However if that's what he wants to do I see nothing wrong with it at all. Collecting new armies (as has been said) are a change - adding interest to the game and also ensuring that you don't get bored with the hobby. I myself only collect the one army (Eldar) and I will only ever collect the one army but there is certainly nothing wrong with collecting multiple armies.
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I own two armies for any system I play. Allows me to break monotany and also always have an opposing army in play and in fluff.
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Well, I have Space marines, Guard and tiny bits of Tau on the go at once...
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I had a friend who changed armies so often that it was just ridiculous. He loved to just get hordes of minis right away, tons of them, sit down night and day, painting and converting so that they're all kinds of crazy. Then he would play with them, lose the game and then sell them or trade them off and start a new army. Watching someone go from space marines to chaos to orks, back to space marines, back to chaos, to dark eldar, back to chaos, etc, is just nuts.

Bartertown was his addiction. He simply loved trading armies for armies and just going a little mad with them. I think it eventually went to his head and after he had done everything he thought he possibly could, he had a burn out of it and doesn't play or collect anymore.

I think it's possible to over-do it. I know a lot of old timers who "have everything" out there as they buy it the moment it's on the shelf and they don't even put it together, they just fuel their habit of getting it if it comes out. It's not necessarily a good thing, because those old models aren't so in demand when the nicer ones are available. For hard-core collectors, it can be great, but for average gamers, it's more of a handi-cap as we want the latest and greatest and we want it to look good. Ask someone if they prefer their old Carnifex or the new one, someone is bound to lie for the sake of saving face.

Personally I like having multiple armies, but I like them to be vastly different. For example, why play several variants of space marines? Why play several variants of Tyranid? If you like to change up that's fine, but do you need separate miniatures for this? If you think so, great, go for it. I personally would rather have many miniatures that allow me to work together and field new or other things just in variation. I also prefer having an army that allows me to change the entire structure and style of the game just based on choice, without having to actually change models at all (lost and the damned for example). I can take anything and throw it in there, and I have a new army to go with, or I can choose new upgrades and I'm good to go with a whole new army.

Some armies aren't good for change, Tau for example, as there isn't much you can do to change it up other than trying extremes, stationary to mechanized. More kroot than Tau, and pure Tau. There's a few little variations but it's not very vast compared to marines or chaos for example, or Eldar for that matter too. This is mainly because Tau lacks the specialized units and armory that allows for combat armies, versus just pure shooting. Guard for example can be a combat force, they at least have options.

So I would advise your friend to select armies that allow him to change the game often, not just change armies often. People who buy too much too fast usually don't take the time to really get into that army and figure it all out and master it and just really enjoy it. Instead, it's more the fascination of the idea of the army and the frustration of it not performing as they dreamed of.

Advise him more towards armies that can be changed in extremes, Eldar, Orks, Chaos, etc. It will let him simply expand on something to try new things, instead of just having to start all over again.

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