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Old 17 Jul 2005, 16:34   #1 (permalink)
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Whats the best shooting army statistics? I know its not the Tau because I do play them. They're good but I'm sure other armies can out shoot them in volume and strength.
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The Imperial Guard. If it's sheer volume you want, they've got it. If it's raw power you want, they've got it. If it's range, they've got that too.

However, any army can be good at shooting when properly written... except Harlequins.
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Old 17 Jul 2005, 16:58   #3 (permalink)
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so even with la low BS it dose not matter because of the volume of fire is better then let say SM with there high bs
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The best shooters are...

Space Marines (accurate and too many lascannons)
Tau (lower BS, but very strong weapons, including dreaded Railgun (weapon statistics edited out -mace)
Imperial Guard (lots of tanks and firepower, but weak troops)

The worst are...

Orks (lowest BS of the batch, they can't hit the broadside of a barn)
Tyranids (Termagaunts can shoot, but it is more of a CC army)

But really, any army can be a good shooting army if used right, except Orks.
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My Ork army is shooty and so is the Nid army i'm planning is also a shooty list.

Nids can have awesome fire-power, it isn't great against power armour but against things like Orks their shooting can be devastating.

Still the most powerful shooting force or the army that is able to cause most damage through shooting is undoubtedly Guard.

Tau aren't a raw fire-power force, they are mobile fire-power. Guard are out and out raw fire-power hence the numerous SIGFH armies.

Marines can make raw fire-power armies but they can't fit in as much in the way of heavy weapons and pie-plates as Guard can.
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Orks can be shooty, but a BS of 2 on a majority of the models won't hit much.
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Oh I never said they were good at it, only that my list was shooty .

Plus to compensate for this I take things like looted Guard ordnance, Skorchas, Cannons (Frag) and Lobbas. Ammo Runts with Nobs that have Rokkit Launchas etc.
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A tweaked out, min/maxed Iron Warriors army can out shoot a lot of things, as well. But they're generally met with hatred.

I played against Iron Warriors for the first time this weekend. Figured "What the hey. Their rep can't be that bad. I'll give it a shot"

End result of game? 3 Tac Squads down, and a basilisk destroyed, versus the almost total ahnilation of my forces.

He wasn't even that good of a player, all he had to do was spread his guys out for good coverage, and just saturate firing lanes with cheap las-cannons, protected by 3+ saves, and 3 non-heavy-weaponed wounds worth of bolter marine.

He took 6 troop choices, each a minimized 5 man tactical squad with 2 heavy weapons. He took 3 elites choices, most were their their equiv to Dev Squads, I believe. And the Iron Warriors get 4 heavy support choices. Which meant a basilisk, a defiler, and some more heavily armed foot troops. Toss in a vicious deep-striking counter assault unit, and there wasn't much that could be done (The things that look more like grey-knights terminators than terminators, but are chaosy. And... uber.)

So, yeah. I can see Guard matching that, shootywise, but you would have to meet bold faced power gaming with more bold-faced power gaming.
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He was cheating though, can't have two heavy weapons in a Chaos squad.

'were their their equiv to Dev Squads, I believe.'

They don't have anything like that for Elite, the have Havocs which are pretty much just Devi's but these are also heavy support.

But in all yes (despite that guy cheating) Iron Warriors are pretty much on par with Guard for shooting.
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Deadnight wishes to point out feral orks have bs3.
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