[TipTop1987]

So if a model as the ability to make poisoned close combat attacks, can it choose to ignore that ability if their Strength would get a better role, or do they always have to use the poison.

[Wild]

You always go with the special I believe, but remember this, if your Str => opponent T, you get a reroll to wound.

[Lord Zambia]

Originally Posted by TipTop1987

So if a model as the ability to make poisoned close combat attacks, can it choose to ignore that ability if their Strength would get a better role, or do they always have to use the poison.

I'm not too sure about that. I suppose its kinda like a chaos lord with a daemon weapon saying "im not going to roll for extra attacks coz i dont want to take a wound" so i would say no.

They kind of balanced it by saying if your strength is equal or greater than the victims toughness you get to reroll to wound, which would probably give you the same chance as if you were using a normal weapon.

Eg ork painboy on guardsmen
4+ to wound with rerolls
or
3+ to wound normally

Personally id prefer the rerolls :P

Hope this helped

Lord Zambia

[chicop76]

Originally Posted by Lord Zambia

I'm not too sure about that. I suppose its kinda like a chaos lord with a daemon weapon saying "im not going to roll for extra attacks coz i dont want to take a wound" so i would say no.

They kind of balanced it by saying if your strength is equal or greater than the victims toughness you get to reroll to wound, which would probably give you the same chance as if you were using a normal weapon.

Eg ork painboy on guardsmen
4+ to wound with rerolls
or
3+ to wound normally

Personally id prefer the rerolls :P

Hope this helped

Lord Zambia

Unless you're a str 6 hive tyrant re-rolling on +4. I'm sill debating on giving one Tyrant poison or not.

[HiveFleetGoliath]

Don't. Give him Furious Charge if anything.

[PNW]

Just a correction, it's not actually if S is greater than T, it's if your normal wound roll would be better than that conveyed by poison, so for things like 2+ poison attacks, you wouldn't get the reroll unless your S was 2 over their T. It just happens to work out as S greater than T since most poison works on a 4+ basis, but some things don't, so don't get confused!

[crazyguy832]

Originally Posted by PNW

Just a correction, it's not actually if S is greater than T, it's if your normal wound roll would be better than that conveyed by poison, so for things like 2+ poison attacks, you wouldn't get the reroll unless your S was 2 over their T. It just happens to work out as S greater than T since most poison works on a 4+ basis, but some things don't, so don't get confused!

Nope. Page 42.

In addition, if the Strength of the wielder is the same or higher than the Toughness of the victim, the wielder must re-roll failed rolls to wound in close combat.

[Lord Zambia]

Originally Posted by crazyguy832

Nope. Page 42.

Yer PNW, idk what edition rules you're playing :P

But yer, hive tyrant poison only really works if your sending him to attack daemons and wraithlords, otherwise no its more of a hinderance than a help :P

Zambia

[HijiriOni]

I can't say for sure on this but I do know if you have 2 special weapons like a power fist and a force weapon you have to choose which one you use. I can only assume this would extend to a regular weapon and an irregular weapon but the same "You don't get bonus attacks" logic would apply.

[Deris87]

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_...ok_Feb2010.pdf

3rd item on the first page, if you have a special and a regular CCW you must use the bonuses and penalties for the special weapon.