[Tom2Toes]

Hi, I'm new here and as I mentioned in my introduction thread I'm looking for some help in making a decision about which race to start collecting. I've already narrowed it down to a choice between the Tau and the Eldar but I'm having trouble choosing so here's an opportunity to influence my decision.

I've already got both codices so I know a fair bit about both of them. I should probably point out that I'm new to 40k and this will be my first collection.

I realise that I should probably tell you more about what it is I like about each of them and what makes me apprehensive but at the moment I can't think so I'll cross that when it comes up.


So: Tau or Eldar?

[confused0ne]

you do realise that on the tau online forums most people will advise you to be tau, right? anyway I think you are trying to make a shooty army based on your choices and as such tau would be better. however the tau are going to be difficult to learn the game with, so to start you should probably go eldar. the eldar have units for every role, and they are not particularly easy to kill. the problem is that the eldar are going to limit what you can do with your army as they are so specific and expensive. In my humble opinion you should learn the way the game works with eldar and possibly when you're more familiar with the game and still want to play such a specific play style as the tau are prone to then go for it.

[Boneguard]

Not really. the biggest question, is what type of game style are you looking for?

Both Tau and Eldar have a relatively steep learning curve, so expect to lose at first. Both have very good mechlist so they can be quite fun.

Tau usually rely more of firepower and concentrated fire and surgical strike. Their armour is descent, but they are poor in Close combat and we have the bete basic rifle in the game.

Eldar are quick, better in close combat but then to have lower armour so more squishy. Eldar is also more specialised so you need to choose your aspected warrior wisely and they can be powerful psyker.

So again: What are you looking for? What attract you to Tau and Eldar?

[Super heavy gunner]

Originally Posted by Tom2Toes

Hi, I'm new here and as I mentioned in my introduction thread I'm looking for some help in making a decision about which race to start collecting. I've already narrowed it down to a choice between the Tau and the Eldar but I'm having trouble choosing so here's an opportunity to influence my decision.

I've already got both codices so I know a fair bit about both of them. I should probably point out that I'm new to 40k and this will be my first collection.

I realise that I should probably tell you more about what it is I like about each of them and what makes me apprehensive but at the moment I can't think so I'll cross that when it comes up.


So: Tau or Eldar?

Space marines. they have dumb muscle that doesn't take much strategy. They're a great team for begginers. Teams that require a lot of strategy are orks, I.G., and dark eldar.

[HiveFleetGoliath]

Originally Posted by Super heavy gunner

Space marines. they have dumb muscle that doesn't take much strategy. They're a great team for begginers. Teams that require a lot of strategy are orks, I.G., and dark eldar.

That isn't entirely true. Space Marines just have a bad reputaion because every 10 year old wants to be the Uber Humans. Space Marines require as much tactics as other armies. The SM codex is fairly neutral CC and Shooty wise, so is good for new players as you learn how most of the game works with one army. After you learn the game you can play a CC orientied or shooty oriented list.

Also, he already made it clear he wanted to play Eldar, or Tau. Last I checked, Space Marines aren't either one of those.
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I would say Tau, as they are tricky to learn. The teach you early on that tactics do matter. As long as you don't get discouraged earily on and study your codex, you will end up being a great player of any army you pick up, as you have a decent understanding of how the game works and tactics to employ against your opponents.

[HijiriOni]

Orks...strategy? Those lines don't belong in the same sentence.

Strategy for orks is MORE ORKS MORE DAKKA MORE CHOPPA, if it isn't that it isn't ork.

Tau is good if you like shooting and you want to die whenever assault is involved.
Eldar die to a stiff breeze, but they actually have units that fight like glass cannons in assault. Those units almost certainly will win any assault they start, but if anything starts swinging back you tend to watch the group die.

[Super heavy gunner]

For begginers, who dont know much strategy, can march their marines up the field against other begginers without much experience march their troops. besides necrons, chaos, and probably tau, it doesn't take much effort with marines. As for orks, you have to find a way to out manuerver the enemy to get in close wihtout being shot down.

[HiveFleetGoliath]

Originally Posted by Super heavy gunner

For begginers, who dont know much strategy, can march their marines up the field against other begginers without much experience march their troops. besides necrons, chaos, and probably tau, it doesn't take much effort with marines. As for orks, you have to find a way to out manuerver the enemy to get in close wihtout being shot down.

Starting an army that doesn't require stratagy is a good way to learn the rules. But to start an army that does require stratagy is a good way to learn how to play tactically, and know the rules.

[HijiriOni]

TRUKS AND MORE ORKS!!!!

Haha, Rokkits work too I guess.

Then again I play Blood Angels...Blood Angels Vs Ork=ASSAULT WILL HAPPEN.
The only question really is whether my armor holds, or your orks morale holds. Death Company tend to carve through orks very very fast.

Then again the original post was "Eldar or Tau"
I think Tau look cooler troop wise, and overall models. Eldar Tanks though are just righteous awesome, and the wraithlords, and the avatar...I'm just not fond of their goofy helmets on their troops.

[Boneguard]

@Super heavy gunner

Which part of this:

Originally Posted by Tom2Toes

So: Tau or Eldar?

You do not understand?

Not every beginner wants to do Marines and it,s a good thing too...there,s way to many of them. So just drop it please.

HijiriOni do have a good point though, Eldar will usually win assault if they initiate it, if they get assaulted their low armour and toughness means they are toast.

My first army was Tau because I love the kroot, and as Goliath said it got me using my brain and think tactic and stategy. I basically use a hybrid list (part mech, part static) and fair pretty well.

Eldar is my second army, because they have some similitude but offers a differnet style of playing.

And guy, let's try to help the OP with his Tau/Eldar dilemma and not derail this thread please.