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Old 21 Jan 2010, 03:29   #1 (permalink)
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Default A question on 5th edition rules

Sorry if this is in the wrong area but I could not find a current post on general rules. I was reading something recently about changes in 5th edition and came across a comment that states that a vehicle cannot be destroyed by a glancing hit. Having gone back over my pocket rule book I could find no mention of such a limitation. I want to know, IS THIS TRUE? Is it somewhere in the hardback?
I'm a house gamer, playing small get togethers with friends. And this would dramatically shift the balance of power.

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Old 21 Jan 2010, 03:41   #2 (permalink)
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They can be destroyed but it takes more effort. On a typical Glancing Hit you'll have a -2 modifier to your roll on the Vehicle Damage table, meaning the worse you can do is Immobilize it. If you have, say, AP1, then your modifier will go up to -1, making a Wrecked a possibility. Failing that, you can always 'Glance it to death,' which is when you destroy all of the weapons and Immobilize it, make the next Weapon Destroyed or Immobilized become a Wrecked.
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 03:44   #3 (permalink)
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Assuming you mean with a single hit, this is true, as the 5th Ed Vehicle damage table cannot go above Immobilised with a Glancing Hit, unless you have used an AP1 weapon, or the Target is Open Topped. In the case of both those things applying, the Target can still Explode.

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Old 21 Jan 2010, 03:44   #4 (permalink)
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Glancing hits can if one of (or both) conditions are met.

1 are the vehicles open topped

2 is the weapon ap1

otherwise they really do not have a chance at destroying the vehicle from one shot. Vehicles can be destroyed by damage to them.

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Old 21 Jan 2010, 06:39   #5 (permalink)
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I think Monoliths can't be glanced to death at all, save in the case of AP1 weapons. Something about their special crystal can't be destroyed on a glancing hit.
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I think Monoliths can't be glanced to death at all, save in the case of AP1 weapons. Something about their special crystal can't be destroyed on a glancing hit.
Monoliths are, as usual, the exeption to the rule. This is why the humble Railgun is the best weapon for the job, as the 'lith ignores any weapon rule that would otherwise destroy it with ease, i.e; lance, 2d6 armour pen etc.
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 12:32   #7 (permalink)
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I think Monoliths can't be glanced to death at all, save in the case of AP1 weapons. Something about their special crystal can't be destroyed on a glancing hit.
Monoliths are, as usual, the exeption to the rule. This is why the humble Railgun is the best weapon for the job, as the 'lith ignores any weapon rule that would otherwise destroy it with ease, i.e; lance, 2d6 armour pen etc.
Ordnance is not ignored to my knowledge, so you can still use the 2D6 take the highest granted by the Demolisher.
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 13:03   #8 (permalink)
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True, but without the AP1 you may still have the Glance to death issue.
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Old 21 Jan 2010, 13:06   #9 (permalink)
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I think Monoliths can't be glanced to death at all, save in the case of AP1 weapons. Something about their special crystal can't be destroyed on a glancing hit.
That's true. A Weapon Destroyed result against a Monolith simply reduces its little guns from D6 shots to D6-1; further results simply modify it to a -2, -3, etc. You can go to D6-9001 and the weapon will technically never be destroyed. It's one of the few things those Crons have going for them anymore. :P
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Actually, if you go by RAW, everytime you get a weapon destroyed result, you actually ADD 1 to the nuimber of shots fired. If you read the description it says you lose -1 shots, double negative is a positve, you gain a shot.
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