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Old 25 Sep 2009, 23:21   #1 (permalink)
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Default Transports count as troop choices? O_o

Ok, I was about to play this game on Vassal, and it was a DoW scenerio. However, just I am deploying my Devilfish transports (which are carrying my FWs); he stops me and says that I can't do that. The reason being, was that they counted as Troop Choices apparently.

Is this true, or was I getting ripped off? ???

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Old 25 Sep 2009, 23:46   #2 (permalink)
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Tau isn't exactly my specialty but i do know one thing. If your fire warriors can take the devilfish as a dedicated transport then you can do that, otherwise....no. If the vehicle is just a transport but isn't a "dedicated transport" option for the troop choice then you must deploy it seperately from the troops in a dawn of war scenerio (think you have to start them off seperate either way though)
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Old 25 Sep 2009, 23:48   #3 (permalink)
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Your opponent was correct. In your case, you could only deploy a single Devilfish and its Fire Warriors; both units counts towards the allotted two Troop choices.
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Old 25 Sep 2009, 23:50   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Transports count as troop choices? O_o

But who takes a Devilfish as a stand-alone troops choice?

And I agree with Rotwiler on this, s I have the Rulebook in front of me.

[quote author Dedicated Transport, Rulebook page 67]these 'Dedicated Transports' do not use up a slot on the force organisation chart.[/quote]

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Your opponent was correct. In your case, you could only deploy a single Devilfish and its Fire Warriors; both units counts towards the allotted two Troop choices.
Wrong Droids_Rule, the devilfish is taken as a Dedicated Transport, meaning it doesn't take up that allowance.
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Old 25 Sep 2009, 23:54   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Transports count as troop choices? O_o

The trick here is in the wording. The do not take up two force-org charts... but they are two UNITS in your Troops. Thus, you may only deploy one squad in a 'Fish at the start of a DoW game (in addition to your HQ, of course)
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Old 25 Sep 2009, 23:56   #6 (permalink)
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PsyBomb is right. You may deploy up to two units from your Troops choices, not two entire Troops choices (so, no, IG will not be throwing down a few hundred men; it'll be two Conscript units at the MOST).
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Old 26 Sep 2009, 00:05   #7 (permalink)
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Dang...I just grew to hate DoW even more than before.

Thanks for all your help guys. Its much appreciated.
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Old 26 Sep 2009, 00:44   #8 (permalink)
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The Example on page 93, under the DoW diagram, is very clear.
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Default Re: Transports count as troop choices? O_o

Transports count as whatever unit they were taken with.

Only in that 1 scenario is it really relevant, as placing both the transport and 1 squad of troops (regardless of boarded or unboarded) is 2 troops for the purpose of it's deployment rule.

However even though they "count as" troops for this deployment rule they don't take an extra FoC, and aren't scoring.

A land raider taken with terminators counts as an elites option.

A rhino taken with an assault squad counts as a fast attack

A razorback taken with a devastator squad is a heavy support.
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