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Old 25 Aug 2009, 04:52   #1 (permalink)
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I just want to make sure that my information is correct. If an Independent character joins a unit and that unit is completely destroyed including the Independent character then that's two kill points in Annihilation, am I correct? And if the Independt character is picked out and Instantly killed by say a Psyker attack then that's still one kill point even though he was in a unit, am I correct?

And finally I know I'm asking too much here, but if you guys can tell me where it states these two answers in the rule book so that I can read it myself, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 25 Aug 2009, 04:53   #2 (permalink)
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Look at it this way:
Is the IC dead?
If yes, then kill point is awarded
Dunno where to find the wording though
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 08:58   #3 (permalink)
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One more thing. If an IC has a retinue, such as a Tau Crisis Commander and his Bodyguards, the unit is in fact worth 2 Kill Points. One for the Commander and one for the Bodyguard unit.

It works the same way if you join a unit with the IC.
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 10:01   #4 (permalink)
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Yep thats 2 KP.

If you combat squad something, thats 2 KP, if you add a transport, thats 3 KP.

IG use to have something really stupid where a squad could be worth some odd 6 KP because of this. I haven't checked their new codex yet.
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 17:14   #5 (permalink)
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If imperial squad combine squads their infantry, does that reduce kill point?
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 21:28   #6 (permalink)
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Aye, a Combined Infantry Squad of 50 man [from 5 Infantry Squads] becomes 1 KP instead of 5. So, your Infantry Platoon [consisting of a Platoon Command Squad and 5 Infantry Squads] can potentially give 2-6 KPs.
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 21:54   #7 (permalink)
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One more thing. If an IC has a retinue, such as a Tau Crisis Commander and his Bodyguards, the unit is in fact worth 2 Kill Points. One for the Commander and one for the Bodyguard unit.

It works the same way if you join a unit with the IC.
I don't really understand the difference between a 'retinue' or a squad that the IC runs with. Are there different rules for the retinue? I couldn't find any other than how you put them in your force org.
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 21:55   #8 (permalink)
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One more thing. If an IC has a retinue, such as a Tau Crisis Commander and his Bodyguards, the unit is in fact worth 2 Kill Points. One for the Commander and one for the Bodyguard unit.

It works the same way if you join a unit with the IC.
I don't really understand the difference between a 'retinue' or a squad that the IC runs with. Are there different rules for the retinue? I couldn't find any other than how you put them in your force org.
Almost no difference other then, as you mentionned, their position in the FOC and most retenue are mandatory IIRC.
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 22:08   #9 (permalink)
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Retinues normally take up the same FoC slot as their Commander and you can't single out the Commander as the Commander and the Retinue is ONE unit.
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Old 25 Aug 2009, 22:19   #10 (permalink)
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Are you talking about the base-to-base for IC's in assault, regarding singling out? That is a big advantage then, esp. with some of the ubermensch Space Marine command squads you can build.
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