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Old 17 May 2009, 21:31   #1 (permalink)
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Who can do it? For definite? The only one I can think of at the moment is Ravenwing but I'm drawing blanks here, I know there's others.
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Old 17 May 2009, 21:54   #2 (permalink)
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Deffkoptas, using their scout move to get close prior to turn 1. My buzzkoptas love killing stationary tanks first turn, as long as I go first and don't get the initiative stolen out from under me.
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Old 17 May 2009, 22:04   #3 (permalink)
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Off the top of my head, Ravenwing squadrons, Space Marine Scout Bikers, Space Marine Scouts mounted in a Land Speeder Storm, Shrike-led Assault Marines or Vanguard Veterans infiltrating, anything mounted in an Imperial Guard Valkyrie or Vendetta, Ork Deffkoptas, Dark Eldar Wyches mounted in Raider having rolled a 12" assault move for their Combat Drugs, and any Dark Eldar Independent Character with Combat Drugs choosing 12" assault mounted in a Raider.

In addition to this, the following can do so but require a good roll on their Run move to actually be able to make it into assault; Dark Eldar Wyches (non-12" assault) or Warriors mounted in a Raider, Shrike-led non-Jump Pack equipped Marines infiltrating, Eldar Rangers or Pathfinders infiltrating, and any Ork unit mounted in an open topped vehicle (with or without Red Paint Job) and having had a Weirdboy in the same army roll a WAAAGH! result that shooting phase.

Not necessarily a comprehensive list, but those are all I can recall right now.

Also, bear in mind that in a Spearhead mission you can start as close as 17" apart due to the corner-to-corner set up. Likewise, in a Dawn of War game you can start as close as 18" apart, though only with Troops and/or HQ units. With those in mind there are loads more units that could make a first turn charge (any Jump Infantry or Cavalry/Beasts for Spearhead, for example).
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Old 17 May 2009, 22:46   #4 (permalink)
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If you apply the road movement rules, then fast transports can do it. Not to plug, but this happened to me with my Orks in the recently posted "Waaagh! Gorskull v. Blood Angels 5th (2000)". I don't use the road transport rules anymore because of how ruinous Nobs can be when they can close that distance so quickly.
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Old 17 May 2009, 22:52   #5 (permalink)
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If you apply the road movement rules, then fast transports can do it.
Not sure how you believe that a Fast transport could do that; if a Fast transport moves at Flat Out speed then troops aboard may not disembark.

Open-topped non-skimmer vehicles on a road, on the other hand, would allow a first turn assault if following a road.
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Old 17 May 2009, 23:05   #6 (permalink)
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Ya kno.

First turn assaults with shrike.

Im totally having a counts as shrike in my army now.

Perhaps even the shrike model converted....
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Old 18 May 2009, 00:19   #7 (permalink)
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Hormogaunt can, if you roll a 6 for Fleet. 6" Move+ Fleet + 12" charge...
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Short answer is everyone can, if you go second. Space marine vets with the "big damn heroes" rule are pretty good at doing it first turn first go, but poor deep strikes, failed fleet moves/difficult terrain can mean your oponent gets to squish anything that's not made it.
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Old 18 May 2009, 08:28   #9 (permalink)
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Hormogaunt can, if you roll a 6 for Fleet. 6" Move+ Fleet + 12" charge...

Not if you deployed by the rules.

there is always MORE than 24" between you and the enemy to start with. Even if it is only a milimeter.



Possessed when rolling scout whilst mounted in a land raider is fun.
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Old 18 May 2009, 08:44   #10 (permalink)
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Ya kno.

First turn assaults with shrike.

Im totally having a counts as shrike in my army now.

Perhaps even the shrike model converted....
A counts as Shrike just got added to my marine army.
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