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Old 02 Dec 2008, 22:22   #1 (permalink)
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Just a quick question and this may seem silly but what units cannot run?? The reason I ask is that with RAW it sounds as though anything (barring shooting units obviously) can do so ie does this mean my vehicle unit, biker unit, winged unit and unit on foot can run??

Any answer to help me out would be appreciated.

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Old 02 Dec 2008, 22:36   #2 (permalink)
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Bikers and artillery cannot run. The rules are stated in the "Unit Types" section of the core rulebook defined for each type (p53 and p55 respectively). Vehicles I don't think can run, I've never seen them run (I play nids so I don't have vehicles personally,) but I'm not sure where it is stated that they can or cannot.
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Old 02 Dec 2008, 23:29   #3 (permalink)
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Pretty much anything with legs on the ground can run, monstrous creatures, jump infantry, walkers/runners, infantry, swarms, even some hovering things (zoanthropes). I don't know if the talos can run with its beserk fire ability....

Anyway, prety much anything that in real life could physicaly run can run.
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Old 03 Dec 2008, 22:57   #4 (permalink)
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Would a defiler be able to run?
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Old 03 Dec 2008, 23:00   #5 (permalink)
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It has legs, but it's also a vehicle that has its own special rules for movement. I'd say no. EDIT: The special rules for Walkers specifically state that they can run during the shooting phase, They also can still assault during the assault phase if they run as well. but they still need fleet if they want to run and assault on the same turn (which the Defiler does have.)
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Old 03 Dec 2008, 23:08   #6 (permalink)
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Defiler is a walker and walkers can run.
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Old 03 Dec 2008, 23:09   #7 (permalink)
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Doesn't a Defiler have fleet anyways?
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Old 03 Dec 2008, 23:10   #8 (permalink)
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That's what I get for saying vehicles have special rules and then not checking them all. Sorry, the Defiler (and any walker vehicles) definitely can run.
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Old 04 Dec 2008, 04:54   #9 (permalink)
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Doesn't a Defiler have fleet anyways?
Indeed it does. Those things can really boogey. Remember, the rules for fleet have changed. All walkers can run. Fleet makes the defiler special because now it can run AND charge.
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Old 04 Dec 2008, 07:42   #10 (permalink)
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It has legs, but it's also a vehicle that has its own special rules for movement. I'd say no. EDIT: The special rules for Walkers specifically state that they can run during the shooting phase. They also can still assault during the assault phase if they run as well.
NO! normal Walkers CAN'T run and assault. The wording is tricky, but they can't. This topic cropped up during our gaming, as well, and was quickly put to rest with grammatical interpretation of the law the rules.

The Defiler CAN, because he has Fleet of Foot.

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