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Old 11 Aug 2008, 20:42   #1 (permalink)
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when i buy terrain i wanna know what scale to buy. thanks.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 21:53   #2 (permalink)
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I may be way off, but I thought it was in the 28 to 30 mm range. But I may be pulling this out of my rear :
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 21:59   #3 (permalink)
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Roughly 1:72 scale (28 mm) but the actual scaling is way off. : Marines are supposed to be 7-8 ft tall...which would mean that a guardsmen model should be 25 mm and a marine should be closer to 30. An Eldar should be around 22. The tank scale (and shooting scale) are way off too.
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28mm for your normal troops, larger bases are something like 40mm. also they are Nth scale, maybe, this is used in model railways and stuff ???
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 22:04   #5 (permalink)
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also they are Nth scale, maybe, this is used in model railways and stuff ???
No. HO scale railway stuff is about 1:87 scale. So for true 28mm models it can work for things like terrain and some buildings. But for 40K HO is a little off. Here's an example of a HO scale model with 40K stuff (albeit...very built up).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/co...06&aId=6700007
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 22:22   #6 (permalink)
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The infantry models are 1/72 scale: 1 inch models represent 6 feet. I've also heard them called 28 mm, which must make for a nice round conversion factor in metric (28mm = 2m, maybe?) but I'm too lazy to do the math. After that it gets murky, because the rest of the game is not to the same scale. Vehicles are smaller than they would be if on the same scale as the infantry (just try cramming 12 fire warriors into the back of a devilfish...), and ranges are even worse. I calculated that at 1/72, the maximum range of the mighty Tau Broadside is about 1 football field!

To actually answer your question, the terrain should be sized based more on playability than anything else. Do you want to be able to hide a tank behind it? Do you want to give a cover save to a large squad? Do you want to enable a squad of sneaky little melee units to approach the enemy's firing line without being seen and shot at? Keep in mind that 5th edition rules use "true line of sight". Models that can be seen clearly (from the head of the firing model) over/through the terrain can be shot, models that you can see less than half of will get a cover save, and models whose base and body are both hidden can't be shot at all.
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Old 11 Aug 2008, 23:00   #7 (permalink)
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models that you can see less than half of will get a cover save
Actually I think it's only vehicles and MCs that require the 50% actually be covered, I'm pretty sure for infantry and anything else all that is required is that part of the model be in cover (and that 50% of the unit itself has some part in cover)...

For instance, a group of 5 Marines has 3 Marines with nothing but their foot being obscured by a unit of Marines in front of them. That means 50% or greater of the unit as a whole is in cover, and so the entire unit gets the 4+ cover save that intervening units apply (I guess assuming they're getting shot by AP3 or better weapons so they aren't getting their better armor save).
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It can't be 1:72 - I'm pretty sure that it's the standard wargaming scale of 1:35. As a person who makes 1:72 model aeroplanes, I can tell you that a pilot model for one of them doesn't even come up to a Guardsman's waist. :P 1:48 scale planes, on the other hand, are much closer to the scale.

So yeah, I'm sure it's 1:35.
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also they are Nth scale, maybe, this is used in model railways and stuff ???
No. HO scale railway stuff is about 1:87 scale. So for true 28mm models it can work for things like terrain and some buildings. But for 40K HO is a little off. Here's an example of a HO scale model with 40K stuff (albeit...very built up).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/co...06&aId=6700007
Link goes to the Language portal page :, BUt i think your right, i couldn't remember which it was, thanks for reminding me.
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also they are Nth scale, maybe, this is used in model railways and stuff ???
No. HO scale railway stuff is about 1:87 scale. So for true 28mm models it can work for things like terrain and some buildings. But for 40K HO is a little off. Here's an example of a HO scale model with 40K stuff (albeit...very built up).

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/co...06&aId=6700007
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