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Would you base your models differently for 5th Ed LOS?
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 19:51   #1 (permalink)
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Default Would you base your models differently for 5th Ed LOS?

Well, would you?


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Old 26 Jun 2008, 19:52   #2 (permalink)
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If I was making a tourney army, yes.

Otherwise no.
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 20:20   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Would you base your models differently for 5th Ed LOS?

I would flat out refuse to play anyone who modeled there troops to gain an advantage. I don't care if it was in a tournament or not.

If someone has a model that is substantially different than normal, I'll ask them to play it as if it were the normal size. But, if they refuse I wouldn't play them.

It's power gaming of the worst sort.
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 20:24   #4 (permalink)
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i am making some suits that are a bit higher up, but i was mounting them on tiles and such to begin with before i knew about 5th ed, it goes along with my theme...

i agree that is would be power gaming to have a crouching wraithlord or such, and i think i read that GW said all figs must be played like they were normal so you couldnt do that stuff...
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 20:36   #5 (permalink)
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Well before I knew much about 5th ed's true LOS I made my bike mounted warboss have a wheelie type pose, might screw him over in some games if the front tire counts as being able to see the boss and his head is about half an inch lower :P. I won't be changing anything to gain some advantage as others have said before, if anything putting an unneeded base on the biker and having the bike reach higher may be more of a handicap than an advantage.
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 20:38   #6 (permalink)
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See that's the thing..If the model is taller, it can see more, but at the same time that head poking above cover makes a great target.
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 20:40   #7 (permalink)
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well the front wheel of the bike is higher, the bosses head is probably not much higher than a regular warboss (since he is mainly a nob model) would you use the top of the wheel or the model's eye level?
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 21:17   #8 (permalink)
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Default Re: Would you base your models differently for 5th Ed LOS?

If an opponent has their models positioned differently, like crouching or prone, it makes little difference to true LOS. It's in the 5th ed rules officially, that LOS is measured to and from where the models are SUPPOSED to be if they were modelled normally. This rule is there specifically to eliminate advantages/disadvantages gained through sneaky underhanded modelling. In other words true LOS isn't always true LOS.

So, if someone has their army modeled like that, go ahead and play them. It'll give them a nice surprise when their "crouching" wraithlord can actually be targeted when they did not think it could. Insist on this, and then refer to the rules (and watch their jaw drop)
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 22:00   #9 (permalink)
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all my models get based normally, just a bit of sand on the base, I do have kneeling models, but they're all just grunt infantry, and really, its troop heavy IG, its not like theres a lack of targets :P also, all my models get movement trays, so they end up standing about 1/4" higher than everyone else. I "Might" also do a company captain on horseback alternate model... but I don't think anyone will object... do you?
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Old 26 Jun 2008, 22:09   #10 (permalink)
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No. Not if they insisted on taking in-game advantage for it. If I was playing someone who did this in a tournament, they would lose all applicable points for sportsmanship. If I was running the tournament, I would not accept the army without the agreement that they would take sight-lines to where the unaltered model would be.

It violates WYSIWYG. You are paying the points for a model with a given profile. Conversions should not alter that profile in any significant way. If they do, the model should be played as if those alterations had not been done. It isn't just powergaming in my opinion. It is outright cheating. You are paying the points for a model that looks like a carnifex, not a carnifex base with some disturbed soil.
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