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Old 14 Apr 2008, 13:19   #1 (permalink)
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I traveled about an hour out of my play area this weekend, to play at a store with people I seldom see. I like to do this, because it allows you to see different army list, and different strategies.

What I did not expect to happen was to learn that I have been doing something wrong.

I have always played that if you shot at unit A in the shooting phase, then you can assault unit B as long as you also assault unit A first. A had to be the primary, and B was the secondary targets of the assault.

After attempting this, I was told that it was illegal. Naturally after a quick discussion, and looking in the rule book, I discovered that I was wrong.

Has anyone else had a moment like this? After playing since 2000, I realized that I had been playing 4Th ed wrong ever since it came out. Luckily, the people I was playing offered to let me take back my shooting. It was a good game, and anytime someone can teach me a "new" rule, I always enjoy the game.
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 13:22   #2 (permalink)
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What?
If I understand right they're saying that you can't asault multiple units?

Well you can, as long as you can reach both than you can.
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 13:31   #3 (permalink)
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Can't quote rulesy stuff but my understanding was that as long as you go pretty much nearest to nearest then charging multiple units in assault range was valid. Can you tell us the paragraph that was quoted?
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 13:39   #4 (permalink)
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Hmmm I'm not sure where it is but I'm pretty positive that you can assault mulptiple units.

Silly if you can't

Sure I've read, 99.9% sure and I'm not usually wrong XD
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 13:50   #5 (permalink)
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Hey JBunny, you've been playing right, they were wrong.
I did this same thing the other day, and it saved my sorry ass in a game.

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Originally Posted by Warhammer 40,000 Rulebook, pg. 36, Shooting and Assaulting.
A unit may charge multiple enemy units, but only if the charging unit can reach them all without losing coherency. Select one unit as a primary target and move to engage that one first... If the unit fired in the Shooting phase it must start its charge by engaging the unit it shot at.
Bold added for emphasis.
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 13:56   #6 (permalink)
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Yup that's the line, I don't have my codex but sadly I recognise it....

That's bad that an entire store can't play..

Then again none of the staff in my store can play either...
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 14:10   #7 (permalink)
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Sometimes people make mistakes. Some times one person who knows a lot makes a mistake and everyone follows their example. If you had fun, if people were nice go back there, point out (nicely) that they were wrong and the way they play in the future will change.
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 14:21   #8 (permalink)
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When I go home for lunch, I will look for page numbers. I will say that it appears that the rule book might be contradicting itself.

The section I am talking about clearly states that a unit that fires can only assualt the unit it fires. I will update this after lunch today About 3 hours from now.
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 17:27   #9 (permalink)
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And then it clearly states, again, in another area, that you may assault mutliple units, so long as your squad remains in coherency. :P
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Old 14 Apr 2008, 18:03   #10 (permalink)
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Where people get confused is that the rulebook states that a unit must charge a unit it shoots at. It does not say that they may only charge the unit it shoots at, or that it must charge every unit it shoots at (important for Tau).
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