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Old 05 Mar 2008, 22:42   #1 (permalink)
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The Question here is twofold: I'm Using a heavily converted fantasy "Mounted Lord of Slanneesh" as my 40K Chaos Lord and:

A What is the Strategic advantage of Round base over Square-base? He came with a very large square base, and i have some 40mm round bases lying around, which he will fit onto (but barely.) Is there any tactical advantage?

B There is a rule that states you may use any base you want, so long as it is not smaller than the base the model came with. would this mean that i would have to use a larger round base than the 40mm one? i believe the square one is 60mm, would i have to aquire a 60mm round base to use him on a round one?
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A) The advantage of a square base over a round is that it has slightly more edge than a round base of the same size.

B) Rules state that miniatures must be mounted on a base, and that base can be no smaller than their 'standard' base.
A normal chaos lord uses a 40mm base, correct?
It may be mounted on a 40mm base, or any base larger than that.
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Old 05 Mar 2008, 23:13   #3 (permalink)
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A What is the Strategic advantage of Round base over Square-base? He came with a very large square base, and i have some 40mm round bases lying around, which he will fit onto (but barely.) Is there any tactical advantage?
The tactical advantage of a mounting a model upon a bigger base comes from the fact that most models are measured from the base when it comes to movement, shooting, and close combat. A bigger base means that you can add up a few inches in your movement, shooting, and assault phase without people complaining.

That's why you see these days where the Daemon Prince model is mounted upon the 60mm to;

a)Show that it is a mosntrous creature

b)To add up that precious few inches when it comes to movement and close combat.

So it is an advantage that also works rulewise. I always mount my HQ upon bigger bases to take advantage of the 'unwritten' rule.
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Old 05 Mar 2008, 23:45   #4 (permalink)
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Okay, in 40K rules terms, say i were to mount him on the 60mm square base for Scenic purposes, and then, in game, wished to hide him behind cover, if one of his corners was sticking out, would he still be a viable target? that's my biggest worry, is that square basing will cause him to be more easily targeted.

Thank you very much for all your replies so far.
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well as far as sighting him goes at our club at any rate (not sure if this is the official BGB rule or not)
We play that unless you can see his torso you cant shoot at him, just so that anyone with heroic arms extended poses isnt hurt by it
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So it is an advantage that also works rulewise. I always mount my HQ upon bigger bases to take advantage of the 'unwritten' rule.
Dude remember that the bigger the base is the more people can swamp it in close combat! If you have a huge base you can get like 20 gaunts in and they'll rip your HQs legs off...
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So it is an advantage that also works rulewise. I always mount my HQ upon bigger bases to take advantage of the 'unwritten' rule.
Dude remember that the bigger the base is the more people can swamp it in close combat! If you have a huge base you can get like 20 gaunts in and they'll rip your HQs legs off...
For some HQ, it is a worse thing, but for others they benefit from it.

For Example, a Close combat HQ would love it and so does one who gives leadership to al the other troops. For example, a Canoness with the book of St.Lucius now adds up an inch or so in her distribution of her Leadership to spread to the other units while a Chaos Lord can attack even more troops.


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So it is an advantage that also works rulewise. I always mount my HQ upon bigger bases to take advantage of the 'unwritten' rule.
Dude remember that the bigger the base is the more people can swamp it in close combat! If you have a huge base you can get like 20 gaunts in and they'll rip your HQs legs off...
I'd put my HQ on a larger base purely for dramatic value. Not everything needs to be optimized for the game.
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I'd put my HQ on a larger base purely for dramatic value. Not everything needs to be optimized for the game.
That is always first, and if it helps it's a bonus. :P

Always done that until someone told me about how bigger bases have so many advantages and disadvantages.
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Honestly I wouldn't put him on a square base for one reason only;

Round bases are far more aesthetically pleasing. Square bases look chunky and obvious, a round base blends in much better and looks nicer.

Wether you put him on a round 40mm of 60mm or something else is up to you, and people have talked about the advantages/disadvantages.

I.e. harder to hide, bigger threat zone, can engage more troops in CC.

But yeah, no matter what you do, I say circle it up!
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