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Old 25 Nov 2007, 00:59   #1 (permalink)
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Hello Tau Online, I have a question for all of you out there, why is it that when people talk about Imperial Guardsmen's BS they say how crappy they are even though they have the same BS as a Tau Firewarrior and no one complains about them? Would this have to do with squad sizes? Weapon Options?

P.S. Mods please move this if it doesn't belong here ( I thought it should go here because it is about both IG and Tau, not one specifically).
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 01:03   #2 (permalink)
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Plenty of people complain about fire warriors, but about the pulse rifle, not the BS. So I guess it's "weapon options".
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 01:07   #3 (permalink)
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well if I had a bs 3 and only had a lasgun, I would slightly complain for a bs 4, even then a lasgun could potentially do thing.

at least with a firewarrior hitting on 4`s means im wounding on 3`s big difference between them.

sorry humans, the imperials dont think you deserve more then a lasgun, so do what all good imperials do, steal the space marines bolters.
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 01:25   #4 (permalink)
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Plenty of people complain about fire warriors, but about the pulse rifle, not the BS. So I guess it's "weapon options".
What is there to complain about? The pulse rifle is The best basic troop gun in the game!

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well if I had a bs 3 and only had a lasgun, I would slightly complain for a bs 4, even then a lasgun could potentially do thing.

at least with a firewarrior hitting on 4`s means im wounding on 3`s big difference between them.

sorry humans, the imperials dont think you deserve more then a lasgun, so do what all good imperials do, steal the space marines bolters.
Ya but Imperial Guardsman are much cheaper and you can cram so many in a single slot plus they can have heavy weapons in their squads.
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 01:41   #5 (permalink)
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I'd say it's fair to assume that Imperial Guardsmen and Tau Fire Warriors have the best accuracy training they can possible have without being superhuman.
Also take note that Tau have slower reflexes then humans, if that means anything.
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 02:08   #6 (permalink)
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Plenty of people complain about fire warriors, but about the pulse rifle, not the BS. So I guess it's "weapon options".
What is there to complain about? The pulse rifle is The best basic troop gun in the game!
Exactly. We don't "deserve" the best troop gun in the game. Why I'm not so sure, but there are lots of complaints against it anyway.

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sorry humans, the imperials dont think you deserve more then a lasgun, so do what all good imperials do, steal the space marines bolters.
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Like it was said, bigger squads, with options for heavy weapons.
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 02:44   #7 (permalink)
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I'd say it's fair to assume that Imperial Guardsmen and Tau Fire Warriors have the best accuracy training they can possible have without being superhuman.
What about Honour Guard Fire Warriors? They have BS4.
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 02:51   #8 (permalink)
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Guardsmen could also mean conscripts, who are BS2...

The Tau have much stronger weapons and the options for markerlights, which can get it all the way up to 5. Guardsmen, not so much.
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 04:24   #9 (permalink)
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....so do what all good imperials do, steal the space marines bolters.

You realise the average guy would probably break his wrists if he tried to fire a bolter?
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Old 25 Nov 2007, 04:29   #10 (permalink)
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Guardsmen could also mean conscripts, who are BS2...
No, codex conscripts are usually people who have just been given a gun and pointed to the enemy as a sort of stop-gap measure, like gangers that were conscripted into the Armageddon wars. This is not to be confused with Guardsmen that were conscripted into a tithed regiment. Those individuals would receive the same training and equipment as any other Guardsman.
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