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View Poll Results: Is the 40k universe...
The future of OUR world, with all the natural laws and such the same 30 37.97%
An alternate reality/version of our world (hence the Old Ones and the Warp) 49 62.03%
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 15:13   #1 (permalink)
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So basically I've been trying to figure this out. The tagline is "the far future", and so with that, you may think this is a stupid, pointless poll. But it really isn't. In our world there is no such thing as the Warp or Old Ones: the earth was not "seeded" by some race of intergalactic beings. As far as we know, there ARE no aliens.
So this leads me to conclude that 40k is not, as it suggests the far future of OUR world, but rather the future of a sort of alternate reality: a different "version" of our world, if you will. Obviously, it has some similarities, but we're not going to wake up some day to find out that the Jokaero have made contact with us. There's no discernable life or signs of energy usage throughout the measurable star system. So at least the backstory for 40k cannot claim to be an accurate reflection of the real world.

Again, this is more for personal purposes, but I'm interested in seeing what everyone thinks. Which is it? Real world in the future, or alternate reality?
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 18:48   #2 (permalink)
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If this is the 40k universe than we ARE the Old Ones. The Old Ones and the Necrotyr were warring billions of years ago, far more than the six billion or so years old our physicists estimate the universe to be. So for this to be the real 40k Universe, the race that is the Imperium won't pop up for another 50 billion or so years.

Short answer: no, it's a fictional universe made up because magic and stuff is cool.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 18:56   #3 (permalink)
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Hmm. I'll ask what I did in another thread: so, did the American revolution happen in the 40 universe? I don't mean in another form, or allegorically, I mean are we supposed to be living the 40k history? Because what with the Old Ones and the Warp and all, I tend to think the answer is no, but...
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I believe that the 40k universe is a continuation of ours. There is no way for you or me to prove that there is no warp or the old ones, because it's impossible for us right now. Hell, the Emperor was even born in Anatolia (Turkey) around 6000 b.c., IIRC.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 19:28   #5 (permalink)
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It's based off of Earth, but it's so far into the future that it hardly really matters.
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It is based off our universe, the Big E built his palace on the ruins of W'Illo R'd, in Not Ingam.



It can easily be based on ours - we do not have the technology to detect the warp, so it could exist.

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far more than the six billion or so years old our physicists estimate the universe to be
Maybe its not the first incarnation of the universe....

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did the American revolution happen in the 40 universe?
Why would this be relevant to the 40k timeline? I'm not saying its silly, but the American revolution is a drop in the proverbial ocean compared with the 40k universe.

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It's based off of Earth, but it's so far into the future that it hardly really matters.
Best way to think of it, really. Yes, 40k has our earth as a very distant ancestor, but in the 38000 years to then, we unlocked the secrets of the universe, made gods walk among men, and conquered the galaxy.

Then destroyed ourselves with our own creation :
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 20:01   #7 (permalink)
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The 40K universe, like most sci-fi universes, follows the rule of most, if not all sci-fi.

Everything is the same as our universe up to the present date, save where;
a) the canon and/or continuity of the fictional universe states otherwise (ie: Dr Who and the Battle of Canary Wharf).
b) referances to the fictional universe exist (ie: Star Trek the TV show did not exist in the Star Trek universe).
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 20:04   #8 (permalink)
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I believe 40k to be our universe.
I also say it is not only that, but the prophecy of what has not yet come to pass.
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I believe 40k to be our universe.
I also say it is not only that, but the prophecy of what has not yet come to pass.
Well, it does contain the oh so typical:

Man makes machines.
Man makes machines that can think.
Machines get pissed at taking orders from the flesh bags.
Machines kill man.
There can be only one.
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Old 10 Nov 2007, 20:15   #10 (permalink)
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It was written to be our universe, and so it is.

If the 41st millennium is on the same time scale, and I think that it is, it actually all works out fine. In our time, the Old Ones are long-dead, and the Necrons are asleep. The Eldar have not yet begun their expansion, and Orks aren't spreading very much. The Fall of the Eldar and the rise of the Imperium occur around the 31st millennium, but the first human and the Eldar empires arose well before that, but not necessarily before out time.

Thus, in our time none of the other races are active. The universe is still in a long quiet period since the end of the last great war a billion or so years ago.

As humanity does not achieve psychic ability until somewhere around the 25th millennium, we would not now be aware of the Warp in any significant way, and the Eldar have not yet "stirred it up". I was not aware that there was any mention of the Old Ones seeding humanity, so that much works as well.
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