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Old 26 Mar 2007, 19:43   #1 (permalink)
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Default Tank shocking monstrous creatures

As the title says, can I tank shock a monstrous creature? The rules make allowances for infantry and vehicles, but they don't say anything specifically about a monstrous creature. The monstrous creature rules (p. 9) say that they don't fit into the normal infantry classification. So, does this mean that I cannot tank shock monstrous creatures?

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Old 26 Mar 2007, 19:49   #2 (permalink)
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I would say yes you can. You can tank shock vehicles, you can tank shock monstrous creatures.

That said I think it'd be a terrible idea.

Most if not all monstrous creatures are fearless, so they'd automatically pass their tank shock test. They could then choose to "death or glory" and get one auto hit from either a missile weapon or combat weapon they carry. Since most monstrous creatures can quite literally punch through a land raider chances are if you tank shock one you'll just lose your tank.

Though it would be funny to run over a daemon prince with a rhino...
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Old 26 Mar 2007, 20:05   #3 (permalink)
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That said I think it'd be a terrible idea.
You forget, my dear Canadian, that I play a skimmer heavy Eldar force. So I'm hoping that they Death or Glory. If I can tank shock monstrous creatures, I plan on sending my Wave Serpents at especially close combat tooled monstrous creatures. They'll need a 6 to hit and, even then, only ever get me glancing. And, yes, I can't wait to run over that Daemon Prince of Khorne.

Still, I'd like to see a page number. I know that I can tank shock a Wraithlord if my armor value is high enough. But it really doesn't mention the monstrous creatures...
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Old 26 Mar 2007, 20:06   #4 (permalink)
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Now I don't know this for sure?

However Don't monstrous creatures count as being fearless.

If so they cant be Tankshoked can they?

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Old 26 Mar 2007, 20:10   #5 (permalink)
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They'll need a 6 to hit and, even then, only ever get me glancing. And, yes, I can't wait to run over that Daemon Prince of Khorne.
Silly American not reading all the rules...

If you tank shock and they death or glory they get one automatic hit. Even if you're a skimmer they get that auto hit on you.

With the paper thin armour on an eldar tank his chances of landing a glancing hit are pretty good.

That being said if you've got spirit stones on your tank he'll only actually stop it on a 5+, but its still risky for you.

Chances are if you tank shock a daemon prince with a waveserpent he'll just sidestep and let you rocket past him.
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Old 26 Mar 2007, 20:16   #6 (permalink)
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Silly American not reading all the rules...

If you tank shock and they death or glory they get one automatic hit. Even if you're a skimmer they get that auto hit on you.
Yes...well... : You've got me there! Still, I doubt that he'll be able to stop it. At best, he'll have a 50% chance of beating my armor (against a wave serpent) and only stop the vehicle on a 33% chance. So that means that he'll bring me down about 1/6th of the time...or 5/6ths of the time, I'll have monstrous creature roadkill. ;D

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Old 26 Mar 2007, 20:27   #7 (permalink)
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Actually a khorne daemon prince will probably be strength 6 (Stature + Daemonic strength) + 2D6 for penetration roll means on a 6+ he'll glance. Odds of getting a 6+ on 2D6 = 26/36.

Though after that he'll only have a 1/3 chance of stopping/killing you provided you took spirit stones.

However like I said he's not obligated to "Death or glory" he could just choose to ignore you can step aside.
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Take all of this discussion and now apply it with a Monolith...

If I read the rules right and the MC decides to Death or Glory and fails, the MC is done....put down....deceased.... (This is significant because of the MC only rolling 1 D6 for armour pen.)

Although the choice is still up to them to Death or Glory.
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Old 26 Mar 2007, 20:36   #9 (permalink)
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Actually a khorne daemon prince will probably be strength 6 (Stature + Daemonic strength) + 2D6 for penetration roll means on a 6+ he'll glance. Odds of getting a 6+ on 2D6 = 26/36.
Silly Canadian...read the energy field rules...only +1d6. ;D BTW, my above example assumed a strength 8 or better.

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Take all of this discussion and now apply it with a Monolith...

If I read the rules right and the MC decides to Death or Glory and fails, the MC is done....put down....deceased....
Yes, well a Monolith would be one of the ultimate tank shocking toys (is it a tank? I don't play Necrons...sorry).

Still, there's no rule that says that you can or can't tank shock a monstrous creature...at least not that I'm seeing.
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This reminds me of the time a tank shocked a carnifex with a Devilfish and ran it over. Henceforth I've called that Devilfish 'Dragnslayer' though I haven't found the proper Tau name yet...
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