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New to chaos, would appreciate help.
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Old 01 May 2008, 15:47   #1 (permalink)
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Well as the title says really.

After reading a very convincing peice of fluff, and having seen so many cool looking armies, i have decided that the Chaos Gods have won my soul for the next year.

Firstly need you help in working out which God i should follow (really don't want to be undivided) I am drawn to Combat in all my Armies (including Tau and Guard ) so naturally i am drawn to Khorn and Slaanesh, Khorn for the pure hack slash kill and flying towards the the enemy, but the planned, precise and measuered strokes of the Emeperors Children are also appealing.

Next i need to know what i need next really. So Basically, what is best to strt off. Tanks for your help already.

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Old 01 May 2008, 16:07   #2 (permalink)
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Well, you could take both, if you liked. There are no rules against it...

But if you want to stick to one, that's fine, too.

Let me give you a run-down of the two gods, and what they're good for.

Slaanesh- A slaaneshi army strikes first, most of the time, as the mark of Slaanesh gives you a 1+ bonus to your Initiative. So they're generally good for making swift attacks, and hoping that you kill most of them before they have a chance to really hurt you. The Slaaneshi Sound marines also make use of their special weapons, and they all have an option to fire in Assault mode, so you could shoot at your enemy before charging in. The chances are high that you'll destroy most of an enemy unit before they have a chance to strike back in Combat.

Khorne- Khorne love Combat, and if you're taking a Khorne army, most of your units will be Close Combat specialists. The mark of Khorne gives each model a +1 to their Attack stat, so, opposing to Slaanesh, you'll be depending upon quantity of attacks, rather than striking first (Although, there are no negative marks on your Initiative). Khorne Berzerkers usually come in large numbers, and so with 12 Berzerkers with 3 attacks each, 4 for the champion, you'll be chomping through Horde armies, and large units with ease with your Superhuman strength, protected in your bloody power armour, and plenty of attacks landing on your opponent. ;D

Hoped that helped you make your decision.

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Old 01 May 2008, 16:20   #3 (permalink)
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yeah cheers, although it sounded kind of biased.
what is a god way to start each army?
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Old 01 May 2008, 16:25   #4 (permalink)
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Sorry if it sounded Biased. :P It's just the way I like to write. ^^

If I were you, to start off, I would go with A small army of a mix of Khorne and Slaanesh, so you can get a feel of what each army is like, and which one better suits your play style. I know you said you didn't want to go undivided, (although it isn't, really) but it's probably the best way to start off.
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Old 01 May 2008, 16:42   #5 (permalink)
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ok, but which units? berserkers or thousand sons or iconed marines what do i need, what the bare boned essentials?
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Okay Bare bone essentials for a Khorne/Slaanesh army. ;D-

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Chaos Lord with Mark of Slaanes, or Khorne, your choice. If you're going with Khorne, Then I would go with Mark of Khorne, (Duh :P) and a Daemon weapon, so he gets a potential 16 attacks (I think). If it's for Slaanesh, I would give him Mark of Slaanesh, (Duh, again. :P) a Jump pack (Maybe) and twin linked lightning claws. Terminator Armour could also be a good bet for both of them.

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Just go with 1 Unit of Khorne Berzerkers, and 1 unit of Noise Marines, (Give the noise Champion a Doom Siren, because that's really handy, and give 1 marine a blast master, and another a Sonic Blaster) so you have a mixture of both gods.

Then, just go with whatever else you like, but give some units mark of Slaanesh, some with Khorne, so, again, you have a mix up of both gods.
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Old 01 May 2008, 17:04   #7 (permalink)
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ok cheers.

Any one else want to comment?
i will start buying next month/ when i get more money in, so plenty of time to get the right army.
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Old 01 May 2008, 19:16   #8 (permalink)
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Do you have the Codex yet? If not then I would recommend you purchase that before you get any models.

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ok, but which units? berserkers or thousand sons or iconed marines what do i need, what the bare boned essentials?
It depends on what you want. Khorne Berzerkers are the Chaos Space Marines dedicated to Khorne, each Berzerker has an increased weapon skill, the Furious Charge special rule and is fearless. They also come with Bolt Pistols, Close Combat Weapons, Frag & Krak Grenades and receive a +1 attack for being marked by Khorne. Noise Marines are the Chaos Space Marines dedicated to Slaanesh, each Noise Marine has an increased initiative, is fearless and has access to the devastating Sonic Weaponry. As standard they come equipped with Bolters, Bolt Pistols, Close Combat Weapons, Frag & Krak Grenades. Noise Marines can exchange their Bolters for Sonic Blasters, and one Noise Marine per squad can exchange his Bolter for a Blastmaster. The Noise Champion can take a Doom Siren, which is basically a very powerful Flamer.

Chaos Lords marked by Khorne receive a +1 attack and can take the Bloodfeeder Daemon Weapon, which can give your Lord an extra 2d6 attacks! Chaos Lords marked by Slaanesh receive a +1 initiative and can take the Blissgiver Daemon Weapon which automatically inflicts Instant death with any successful to-wound rolls. Chaos Sorcerers cannot be marked by Khorne, as Khorne despises sorcery in all it's forms. Sorcerer's marked by Slaanesh receive a +1 initiative and have access to the Lash of Submission psychic power, enabling you to move non-vehicle enemy units 2d6 in any direction.

Any unit given the Icon of Khorne will receive a +1 attack, and any unit given the Icon of Slaanesh will receive a +1 initiative.

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Old 01 May 2008, 19:41   #9 (permalink)
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Cheers, i don't have the codex yet, but as i said, as soon as i get funds, that is on my list.

So, for a basic Khorn army (Not necessarily World eaters) i want

HQ, Khorn lord with his big sword thing

Troops, 2+ boxes of berserkers with rhinos

Elites, A few Termies

sound OK?
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So, for a basic Khorn army (Not necessarily World eaters) i want

HQ, Khorn lord with his big sword thing

Troops, 2+ boxes of berserkers with rhinos

Elites, A few Termies

sound OK?
That's a reasonable force, and should provide you with a good start. Keeping an open mind with your army is a good idea, you may want to take other units e.g. Thousand Sons, at least with a non-World Eaters warband you can still incorporate other units without contradicting yourself.
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