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Old 03 Mar 2008, 11:01   #1 (permalink)
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Default Anyone having trouble with playing Chaos at smaller points?

Well, before I go to the topic, I have to explain why I make the topic. Notice hat cult troops here mas that anything that is dedicated to one god, not special troopers like plague marines, khorne berserkers and the likes.

Well, when it comes to every army I make, I will always make an army list that I can use to teach newbies all about the army, those who are interested i the ways of the Death Guard.. My tau and sisters I can always make then footsloggers with some extras. But with my Death Guard I bumped into a predicament.

My Lord alone counts for at least 1/4 of the entire 500 pts (bare-boned), while the troops choices are barely i, and even then they are bareboned. That means not even a flamer to even help themselves against the horrors that the other armies can do to them.

At the 1000 pts margin, it is rather sufficien to say that it does not really help, and only when it reaches the 1500 pts limit, only is the list viable for the newbies to understand what a Plague Marine can really offer.

Anyone having trouble playing with Chaos in smaller points game?
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 11:21   #2 (permalink)
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Yeah I noticed that deathguard struggle in smaller points, I played a 1000pt game with mine and got slaughtered, mainly due to the combination of bad luck, a small army and no terrain ¬_¬
Luckily it was against a kid I was teaching to play properly so he was happy
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 11:52   #3 (permalink)
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whats wrong with this?

Chaos Lord 135 Points
Power Fist
Mark Of Nurgle

5 Nurgle Marines 165 points
Melta
Champion with Power fist

5 Nurgle Marines in Rhino 200 points
Melta
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 12:10   #4 (permalink)
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The longest range weapon is 24" and thats if your stationary :P
My tau list could obliterate that, may take a while as it is quite a tough list but will atill get killed easily enough
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 12:43   #5 (permalink)
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ok :-X how about this one then ??

Chaos Lord 135 Points
Power Fist
Mark Of Nurgle

5 Nurgle Marines 125 points
Melta

5 Nurgle Marines 125 points
Melta

5 Havocs 115
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 12:54   #6 (permalink)
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why even bother making a 500 pts list?

the game is meant to be played at 1500+ and anything lower makes chaos suffer as they will have very very few bodies.

if you want to play mini games go for squad of death or whatever its called.
400 pts, some limitations like a vehicle cant have more than 33 total armor.
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 12:57   #7 (permalink)
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Well, the cost of the IoN hardly helps your cause at such low point games. I mean, that Icon is ripping you off unless you have it affecting at least 10 marines.

If you insist on taking the icon in 500 points, well, it's just gonna be tough. I don't know what else to say.

My lower points army lists differ fairly significantly from my larger ones, especially in terms of the balance of my FoC. But I don't have much of a problem giving up strict theme in the interest of a more cost-effective army.
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 13:30   #8 (permalink)
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I used the chaos codex for the first time last week. It was a 1000 point game and I was using Plauge Marines. I was horrified at how good they were. I quite literally did nothing but move them forward six inches every turn and then I won. That's IT.

So no, I really don't think the chaos codex suffers at 1000 points.

500 points might be tricky for it, but as mentioned, why not try doing combat patrol at that points level? Alternativley you may just have to take some unmarked units.

But yeah, at 1000 points not only can plauge marines/nurgle armies be horrifically effective, you can make some truly truly horrific lists.
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Old 03 Mar 2008, 18:37   #9 (permalink)
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As a worldeater player, I agree. Chaos doesn't seem to preform as well in the lower point games than other armies. Although i don't play 500pts games, i do play combat patrol and i notice that my force is only 13 models and one rhino. It does alright, not great mind you.

But when i play 1000pts, my luck seem to change. The army does seem to preform better. This could be due to the fact that i just started play more combat patrols and don't have much experience with them as of yet.

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Old 04 Mar 2008, 04:33   #10 (permalink)
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I find playing low point games such as 500pts a challenge. It really shows you what each unit is capable of, and in the case of Nurgle Marines costing an arm and a leg, I find the handi-cap helps me improve my game. I don't think I've ever played a game more then 1000pts in the 9 years I've been playing. I simply have never had that many models for one army :P

Any way, I'm just a fan of smaller games. It just provides a little more incite into the limitations of each unit, although by all means larger point games provide plenty of opportunites for such things as well. Smaller games are just easier to put togethor (list-wise and model-wise) and take considerably less time to play.
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