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Thousand sons: I4 or I1?
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Old 28 Jun 2007, 01:47   #1 (permalink)
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Default Thousand sons: I4 or I1?

Ok, I know in the codex it says that rubric marines always strike and I1 and never get the bonus for charging (i hate my own army). But i keep seeing posts where people mention things like "well, now that they dont strike at I1 anymore", or "ever since they changed the initiative thing"....

So my question is this: What initiative does a rubric marine strike at? And if they did in fact change the rules, where are they posted? i dont remember seeing them on the FAQ...

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Old 28 Jun 2007, 02:21   #2 (permalink)
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A Tson rubric marine strikes at I1. Its just to help balance out the 2 wounds and always get to shoot and move thing.
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not at the moment, the faq says that all rules in the dex are replaced by them in rulebook, so they strike at in4 , same for oblits, though they have pfists..
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Timjim's right, the BGB take precedence over all rules in 3rd edition codicies.
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Nope.

The CODEX superceeds the rulebook. ALWAYS.

The Codex says they strike at Initiative 1, so they strike at Initiative 1.


Consulting the FAQ, the only reference was made to Sweeping Advance. Thus, Thousand Sons may make a Sweeping Advance move (whereas they previously couldn't), but their Initiative remains unchanged.


Codex Takes Priority.
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Nope.

The CODEX superceeds the rulebook. ALWAYS.

The Codex says they strike at Initiative 1, so they strike at Initiative 1.


Consulting the FAQ, the only reference was made to Sweeping Advance. Thus, Thousand Sons may make a Sweeping Advance move (whereas they previously couldn't), but their Initiative remains unchanged.


Codex Takes Priority.
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As the number of warhammer 40,000 armies has increased throught the years, it has become apparent that there are a large number of special rules that are not specific to a single army, and that these universal special rules really belong here in the warhammer 40,000 rulebook. The following unit special rules are the definitive versions, and replace special rules of the same name printed in full in codexes.
Therefore you go by the universal Slow and purposefull rule which, as it has no mention of initiative means that Thousand sons strike at initiative 4.
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Old 28 Jun 2007, 10:24   #7 (permalink)
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Yup, currently Thousand Sons are Initiative 4 now.
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Oh lord... I'm a Thousand Sons player, and I hate that.
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Oh lord... I'm a Thousand Sons player, and I hate that.
I see what you mean (I think) It takes away part of the fluff of thousand sons, and promotes them as a close combat army which they shouldn't be.
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Don't worry, the new edition Chaos Thousand Sons will be more popular where every body will have at least 1 unit in their armies now.
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