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Old 21 Apr 2007, 15:47   #1 (permalink)
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Default [LatD] 1000pts - all infantry - help needed!

Hello all,

I'm thinking of making an LatD army. I'm about to base it on Aerion the Faithful's fan-comic; Farewell sister. Here's the .PDF file of the comic:
Farewell Sister [2,35 MB; pdf]
You can view the comic here too.

I'll be using the fallen-sister Isabella as my HQ. I'm not completely sure if I can take non-power armoured HQ's so I just made her an Arch Heretic.
She has an Eviscerator/Chainsword in the comic so this will represent a Powerfist.
I'm going for all-infantry like in the story, I was thinking to add rough-riders too.

I would like to have a command squad, but I'm not sure if that's possible. I could use normal guard with some doctrines but then I wouldn't have any Chaos Gifts.. :'(

Anyways here's the list I'm working on, it's not finished that's why I need your help!
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Arch Sister Isabella's Traitors - 1000pts [WIP]

HQ

Arch Sister 'Isabella' [size=7pt][arch heretic][/size] [105pts]
[size=7pt]/ Eviscerator [count-as powerfist] Plasma-pistol, Mark of Khorne
Daemonic strength[/size]

Troops

15 Traitor squad - Alpha [171pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Plasma pistol, Close-combat weapon
1 Plasmagun
1 Lascannon
12 Lasguns[/size]

15 Traitor squad - Bèta [166pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Plasma pistol, Close-combat weapon
1 Plasmagun
1 Missile-launcher
12 Lasguns[/size]

15 Traitor squad - Gamma [171pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Plasma pistol, Close-combat weapon
1 Plasmagun
1 Lascannon
12 Lasguns[/size]

15 Traitor squad - Delta [166pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Plasma pistol, Close-combat weapon
1 Plasmagun
1 Missile-launcher
12 Lasguns[/size]

[Total: 779 [size=8pt]pts[/size]]
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Old 21 Apr 2007, 20:19   #2 (permalink)
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Hello all,

I'm thinking of making an LatD army. I'm about to base it on Aerion the Faithful's fan-comic; Farewell sister. Here's the .PDF file of the comic:
Farewell Sister [2,35 MB; pdf]
You can view the comic here too.

I'll be using the fallen-sister Isabella as my HQ. I'm not completely sure if I can take non-power armoured HQ's so I just made her an Arch Heretic.
She has an Eviscerator/Chainsword in the comic so this will represent a Powerfist.
I'm going for all-infantry like in the story, I was thinking to add rough-riders too.
-I really like the background and the character that you have chosen to represent your commander. I wouldn't bother with an Arch-Heretic if I were you; this character is better represented by an Aspiring Champion. Fluff-wise she doesn't appear to be a Chaos Lord of LT; game-wise you can use her as a hidden powerfist for the squad for cheap: AC (Powerfist & Free Bolt Pistol) = 42p; which leaves plenty of space for rough-riders and the like.

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I would like to have a command squad, but I'm not sure if that's possible. I could use normal guard with some doctrines but then I wouldn't have any Chaos Gifts.. :'(
-As an AC she would need to attatched to a unit of mutants or traitors. Viola: Instant command squad. For her Retinue Squad, I'd reccomend a large unit of Mutants. They don't have to be modeled all crazy, just mix up some plastic cadians with some Fantasy Zombies, call their weapons firearms, and viola! You have a cheap, but beefy command squad that can consist uf up to 30 warriors, and have up to 3 Flamers embedded in them. As a finishing touch, you can add in an Agitator with a second Powerfist to make the unit particularly potent. Very Nica'!

As to the meat of the Army: I'd use another squad of mutants in addition to the command squad to act as your cumpulsories; then save some points by useing smaller firepower squads as infiltrating support teams. (Lascannon/Sniper Rifel, and Autocannon/Heavystubber combos work very well.) THis then frees you up to add your rough-rider squads.
Your big problem is going to be anti-tank. Your Traitors just are not accurate/reliable enough to cut it. I like using allied units of CSM, but I see that you are trying to avoid that here. The alternative is to spam Traitor Lascannons.
Example: Traitor x 6 (Lascannon, Sniper Rifle) = 68p x 4 squads! = 272 for 4 lascannons and 4 Sniper Rifles that can infiltrate and focus fire on enemy armor.
Figure that the mutant mob with Agitator (Powerfist), 29 other mutants, and 2 flamers = 211 each; and your HQ would then be 42p. You are left with 264 points to fill out your forces. Easily enough for 2 - 3 squads of rough riders armed with hunting lances, and maybe a meltagun or two. ;D
As your list is, you have a lot of bodies, but no reall battle strength, and you'll tend to get overwhelmed; these mods should stick to your flavor, and still net results.

Thoughts?
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 06:25   #3 (permalink)
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Rough Riders w/ Melta bombs would help v tanks
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 08:07   #4 (permalink)
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TANKS!!! EVERYONE NEEDS TANKS!!!!
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 09:18   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: [LatD] 1000pts - all infantry - help needed!

Thanks a lot for the suggestions, Ged!

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Arch Sister Isabella's Traitors - 1000pts [WIP]

HQ

Arch Sister 'Isabella' [size=7pt][aspiring champion][/size] [42pts]
[size=7pt]/ Eviscerator [count-as powerfist] Bolt-pistol[/size]
[size=6pt]* attached to Mutant Squad[/size]

TROOPS

30 Mutant Squad * [211pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Powerfist
Firearm's
2 Flamers[/size]

30 Mutant Squad [211pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Powerfist
Firearm's
2 Flamers[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

FAST ATTACK

Roughriders [---pts]
[size=7pt]I don't have the guard codex with me for the point costs of roughriders..[/size]


[Total: 736 [size=8pt]pts[/size]]
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Thoughts?

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Old 22 Apr 2007, 15:45   #6 (permalink)
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Pfreak,

Looks pretty good. Weighing in MikeH's suggestion, you might use one or two of these.:
Rough Riders x 8 (8 Hunting Lances, Veteran upgrade with meltabombs) - 99
-These make great one-shot assault units, and they're cheap. They can range out ahead of your force, and block enemy fire lanes by tying up the enemy front line unti your mutants can arrive.
I don't know if it fits in your fluff anywhere, but a second HQ configured the same as Isabella (Maybe model a male counterpart for her?) will give your second mutant squad LD10, making it much harder to remove from the table.

What do you think?
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Old 22 Apr 2007, 15:58   #7 (permalink)
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Pfreck,

Looks pretty good. Weighing in MikeH's suggestion, you might use one or two of these.:
Rough Riders x 8 (8 Hunting Lances, Veteran upgrade with meltabombs) - 99
-These make great one-shot assault units, and they're cheap. They can range out ahead of your force, and block enemy fire lanes by tying up the enemy front line unti your mutants can arrive.
I don't know if it fits in your fluff anywhere, but a second HQ configured the same as Isabella (Maybe model a male counterpart for her?) will give your second mutant squad LD10, making it much harder to remove from the table.

What do you think?
Ged
Thanks Ged,

That sounds like a great idea, I had the idea to convert the roughriders, so they're riding on motor cross bikes..
That'll definitely fit the theme, IMO.
I'm a little concerned about Isabella though, in the arts she doesn't looks like she's wearing a lot of armour to represent a 3+ save...
A second AC would be very cool, I was thinking that it'll be a fallen inquisitor or maybe even a IG officer.

Any thoughts?

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Old 22 Apr 2007, 17:04   #8 (permalink)
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Pfreak,

The rule for WYSIWYG on Power Armor has always been: Great Big Shoulder-pads! What does Isabella have in the pics? GREAT BIG SHOULDER PADS! ;D No problems here. The IG offocer idea is good, and follows the same idea. Get the stock Cadian IG officer that is modeled with a Powerfist and laspistol, (Look in the Order Book, you can't miss him) and add CSM shoulder pads to him. (The Stock CSM pads and a little green stuff should do the trick) You could also use the Commisar that comes with the powerfist and sabre. (I use him as an agitator myself)

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Old 22 Apr 2007, 17:21   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks Ged,

I think I'm going to use one of these.

I was thinking to base Isabella on a Demonette or a Sister Repentia, since she has to be half-naked.

The mutants won't be really 'mutated' they'll be more like traitors with more amour, cables, gill's, gas-masks, oxigen-tanks etc etc.

The list is fine now I think;
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Arch Sister Isabella's Traitors - 1000pts [WIP]

HQ

Arch Sister 'Isabella' [size=7pt][aspiring champion][/size] [42pts]
[size=7pt]/ Eviscerator [count-as powerfist] Bolt-pistol[/size]
[size=6pt]* attached to Mutant Squad[/size]

Arch Officer 'no name yet' [size=7pt][aspiring champion][/size] [42pts]
[size=7pt]/ Powerfist, Bolt-pistol[/size]
[size=6pt]* attached to Mutant Squad[/size]

TROOPS

30 Mutant Squad * [211pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Powerfist
Firearm's
2 Flamers[/size]

30 Mutant Squad * [211pts]
[size=7pt]Agitator / Powerfist
Firearm's
2 Flamers[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

6 Traitor squad [68pts]
[size=7pt]
1 Sniper rifle
1 Las cannon
Lasguns[/size]

FAST ATTACK

8 Roughriders [99pts]
[size=7pt]Hunting Lances
Veteran / meltabombs[/size]


[Total: 877 [size=8pt]pts[/size]]
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Maybe I can give the Arch's MoCU? Or add another roughrider squadron?

Any thoughts?

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Pfreak,

The Officer on the top-left is the one I had in mind. Just stick some shoulder pads on him and cut him loose; if you're feeling frosty, you could even model a campaign cloak flowing from the shoulder-guards.
As to the rest, I'd say add a second squad of rough riders give Isabella MoCu, and call it a day. The Sister Repentia is a good place to start, I used on of those for my own Daemonhost Aspiring Champion. (Daemonvessel for my Keeper of Secrets) and they convert nicely. Also consider looking at the (Specialist Games) Necromunda model range in the House Echer and Mercenaries sections. Both of these feature tripped out, underdressed, female warriors; as do the Amazon Bloodbowl team members.

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