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Old 02 Apr 2007, 21:19   #1 (permalink)
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CYPHER, THE FALLEN ANGEL what army is he ment to lead cause from what i no half of dark angels turned to chas as well or somthign and are refered to now as the fallen angels if this is true would there be such a thing as a fallen death win and fallen raven wing chapter as well ???
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Old 02 Apr 2007, 22:05   #2 (permalink)
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I seriously doubt that, since the Fallen are now renegades on the run from the Dark Angels that seek to capture and kill them for betraying the chapter. So if there was a "Fallen" Deathwing or Ravenwing, it probably wouldn't last long, that and in Ravenwings you use Landspeeder's, something that Chaos can't have. So I would have to say, NO. No "Fallen" Deathwing or Ravenwing.

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Old 02 Apr 2007, 22:33   #3 (permalink)
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CYPHER, THE FALLEN ANGEL what army is he ment to lead cause from what i no half of dark angels turned to chas as well or somthign and are refered to now as the fallen angels if this is true would there be such a thing as a fallen death win and fallen raven wing chapter as well ???
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Before I get into the sordid past of the illustrious Cypher: Welcome to Tau Online, I'll be your host here in the Chaos Forum. Please take a moment to glance over the forum rules, and feel free to PM me if you have any questions. Now on to the fun stuff.
Cypher was a special character available in the last ed. of Codex Chaos. He could lead either a Chaos army or an Imperial Guard Army, and tote around a Squad of fallen angels with him. He had a MC PLasma Pistol and an MC Bolt pitol that he could fire each round, and various other special rules. He is currently out of date for current use; and like the Slanneshi Daemon Prince Doomrider, is no longer fieldable.
He can reasonably be proxied with a well designed Chaos Lord in a Chaos Army, or with an Allied Space Marine Choice in IG. As far as fallen Deathwing/Ravenwing I suppose that it's possible, but you'd be doing some serious proxy in either case in the Chaos Codex. Conventional wisdom says that the fallen appear at no more than squad size. I have a single fallen Angel as a Chaos LT in my army, and thats considered pushing it by some purists...

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Old 02 Apr 2007, 22:36   #4 (permalink)
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You could represent the Fallen Angels using either the Undivided Chaos Space Marine Codex, or the Dark Angels ones. And I to agree with Dementia that the Fallen wouldn't have access to both Ravenwing and Deathwing options or units. To be honest, if you want to start a Fallen Dark Angels army you would be best off using the Chaos Space Marine Codex, as that would represent their traitorous nature.
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Yes I just started a fallen angels army when the new dark angels vets came out, I just use them as unmarked Chaos marines
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Old 03 Apr 2007, 04:42   #6 (permalink)
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The problem with tryig to start an army of fallen angels is that they have no equipment, no units, no armour support, and for the past few hundred years the most recorded to appear at one place is around 10.


Technically they should never be an army. They can be say a character in ur army (as with the chaos Lt. example earlier) but you definitely shouldn't have an army of them.
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Old 03 Apr 2007, 14:37   #7 (permalink)
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I can guarantee you there is no Fallen Death wing or Ravenwing.

The two companies were founded with one single purpose.

The Raven wing are tasked with finding the Fallen.

The Death wing are tasked with capturing the Fallen.

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Old 03 Apr 2007, 17:09   #8 (permalink)
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Indeed, the Death Wing and Raven Wing were founded after the Fall of Caliban.

The best way to run The Fallen is at the head of a Lost and the Damned army.
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Old 03 Apr 2007, 17:31   #9 (permalink)
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Indeed, the Death Wing and Raven Wing were founded after the Fall of Caliban.

The best way to run The Fallen is at the head of a Lost and the Damned army.
Alternativley a cultist heavy Alpha Legion list could work.

Big chaos lord and some chosen as the actual fallen and then fill out the rest with cultists and daemons.
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great idea Falstead. However, w/ the Lost and the Damned you can get Marks other than Chaos Undivided.
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