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Old 20 Mar 2007, 19:02   #1 (permalink)
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Okay my fellow TO chaos members seeing as I'm evil and want to get an upper hand on the compertion, I want to start asking and get you lot thinking of lists for the up comming TO campaign. Now the idea is you will be up against all races. So I ask you what is a balanced tourdy list?

Post yours up with why its a good list, probally best to base around 1,500 if you dont have a current one.

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Old 21 Mar 2007, 11:00   #2 (permalink)
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Well, my current list is WIP, but, as an Unmarked/Undivided LatD player, I look for a large mass of bodies on the ground, backed up by SOME Heavy support. Fast Attack is good too.

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Old 21 Mar 2007, 14:56   #3 (permalink)
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Okay my fellow TO chaos members seeing as I'm evil and want to get an upper hand on the compertion, I want to start asking and get you lot thinking of lists for the up comming TO campaign. Now the idea is you will be up against all races. So I ask you what is a balanced tourdy list?

Post yours up with why its a good list.

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LeeStar,

The first consideration when designing a tourny list is size. What point value are you proposing? Te second question is are ther any special considerations as far as the rules? Fromm there I'll post my first tourney list, and will help others with theirs.

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Old 22 Mar 2007, 06:51   #4 (permalink)
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Well, what's the backstory for our Chaos forces in the campaign?

Fluff is important too.
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Old 22 Mar 2007, 10:51   #5 (permalink)
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I'm devoted to fluff, It motivates me. I need a reason to fight, however vague...

In fact, I wouldn't mind a thread where we can all post our Army Fluff.
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Old 24 Mar 2007, 00:34   #6 (permalink)
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Well this is mine:

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1500 Pts - Word Bearers Roster - The Host

1 Daemon Prince @ 167 Pts
Dark Apostle; Close combat weapon (x1); Frag Grenades
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Daemonic Armour; Daemonic Flight; Daemonic Stature; Daemonic Visage; Accursed Crozius

3 Obliterators @ 210 Pts

5 Bloodletters @ 130 Pts

6 Word Bearers @ 128 Pts
Close combat weapon (x6); Bolter (x4); Plasma Gun (x1); Autocannon; Chaos Icon; Mark of Chaos Undivided; Infiltrate

6 Word Bearers @ 128 Pts
Close combat weapon (x6); Bolter (x4); Plasma Gun (x1); Autocannon; Chaos Icon; Mark of Chaos Undivided; Infiltrate

6 Word Bearers @ 128 Pts
Close combat weapon (x6); Bolter (x4); Plasma Gun (x1); Autocannon; Chaos Icon; Mark of Chaos Undivided; Infiltrate

9 Word Bearers @ 268 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x7); Close combat weapon (x9); Frag Grenades; Flamer (x2); Chaos Icon; Mark of Chaos Undivided
1 Aspiring Champion
Bolt Pistol (x1); Powerfist (x1); Frag Grenades (Squad); Mark of Chaos Undivided
1 Rhino @ [68] Pts
Combi-bolter; Dirge Caster; Smoke launchers

3 Word Bearer Bikers @ 175 Pts
Close combat weapon (x3); Twin-linked Bike Mounted Bolter (x1); Flamer (x2); Chaos Icon; Mark of Chaos Undivided; Chaos Marine Bike
1 Aspiring Champion
Bolt Pistol (x1); Power Weapon (x1); Twin-linked Bike Mounted Bolter (x1); Mark of Chaos Undivided; Chaos Marine Bike

5 Word Bearers Havocs @ 165 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x1); Close combat weapon (x5); Missile Launcher (x4); Tank Hunters


Total Roster Cost: 1499
Fairly flexible, it serves me both in tourneys and campaigns.
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Old 24 Mar 2007, 03:11   #7 (permalink)
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That is a solid WB list Xenephobic.

This is something I would play as an LatD tournie list

hq ...
Daemon Prince-
-2 CCW's, Feel No Pain, Collar of Khorne, DStature, DStrength, DAura, DSpeed, DEssence, Personal Icon, Frag Grenades,

Bloodthirster-

elites ...
8 Bloodletters-

6 Chaos Space Marines-
-MOCU, Lascannon,
Asp - DChains,
Infiltrate

troops...

5 Traitors-
-Lascannon, Infiltrate, Icon Bearer

5 Traitors-
-Lascannon, Infiltrate, Icon Bearer

15 Mutants
-Icon Bearer, CCW, Flamer
Mutant Boss
-Power Fist, CCW

15 Mutants
-Icon Bearer, CCW
Mutant Boss
-Power Fist, CCW

fast attack...
10 Chaos Hounds

heavy...
Basilisk
-Indirect

Basilisk
-Indirect

At 1500 I would use Latd. Notice ... no upgades on the mutants. Just two daemon packs ... power armored for one ... speed for the other. You have lascnnons and powerfists, a good GD and a kitted out DP. The basilisks will do fine as support.
you have 68 models on the table ... should be pretty competitive without being called cheese although you are min/maxing a bit.

Lets face it ... in cheese order ...
Iron Warrior - 9 oblits - nasty list for sure
Spawnzilla - oooh very tough to beat
Siren daemon bomb - 50/50 one shot pony
Biker Bomb - - 50/50 one shot pony
Termie Bomb - can be quite nasty

These are the cheesy chaos lists we need to avoid. I think LatD or infiltrating Alpha Legion are nice, balanced competitive lists. We need to decide ho we want to compete ... are we going to face SM donkey cannon lists, Tau Crisis Suit lists, NidZilla lists?

Also we have to be careful with Cult lists as we don't want to start a war among ourselves. Some sort of Undivided list is called for.
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1 Daemon Prince @ 167 Pts
Dark Apostle; Close combat weapon (x1); Frag Grenades
Mark of Chaos Undivided; Daemonic Armour; Daemonic Flight; Daemonic Stature; Daemonic Visage; Accursed Crozius
Aura is a waste the crozius gives you a 4+ invulnerable save
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Old 24 Mar 2007, 07:04   #9 (permalink)
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oh dammit i misquoted
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