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Old 06 May 2009, 22:35   #1 (permalink)
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Default Looking for some help in putting together my resume

It's been a long time since I went looking for a real job. In 2001 I got hired at a good hardware chain. I worked there for five years, got fired. Worked for a friend for a while, got laid off. Was self employed then went to work at a temp agency. So I haven't been using a resume for a while.

So I'm turning to the TO community for some pointers. What do I need to make my resume look good?

Right now I've got my Education my Work History and my References as well as my contact information and stuff. I'm see things about an "objective" but what is that supposed to say?

I also have a pretty bad work history (not that I'm a bad employee, I've just made stupid/bad decisions that led to me getting fired twice). I've learned from this history, but I'm not sure how to broach the subject on resumes / applications without a) being dishonest and b) completely ruining my opportunity.

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Old 06 May 2009, 22:59   #2 (permalink)
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well perhaps lighting the fact that you worked for 5 years in a consistent job...should show non runner.

objectives are a plain, non nonsense statement. My objective is to work as a (insert position/title here)for (insert company name here) or you can mix it up a little by stating your expertise in a field, then cojoining that to the company.

resumes are impersonal life stories, have them strait to the point and summarized (10-30 seconds maximum viewed). Whos to say you have to highlight in red you were fired.

The next thing is, the resumes will be the preliminary bombardments, highlight the goods, then prepare for the explanation in interviews. So what if you were fired...is there any redeeming features about it? anything to show loyalty? anything to work in favor?
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Old 06 May 2009, 23:03   #3 (permalink)
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Is there any way you can turn the two times you were fired into positives or even make them look less bad?

It would also depend on why you got fired. If you got fired because you were given too much work and not enough alloted resources/time to do it in, then you could probably explain that at any interview you got and leave it off your resume. If you were fired because you simply didn't understand the full remit and responsibilities of your post, then it would also depend on whether there was any training provided or if you were just "expected" to know things before you even started.
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Old 06 May 2009, 23:05   #4 (permalink)
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I, personally, keep my resume quite light. Education, work history (the bits I want to mention. and under each job, I put my responsibilities in that position), applicable skills and references.

I never mention why I left any job on my resume, and when asked, I keep it extremely simple, truthful, and don't tell more than I have to. I tend to find those doing the employing like honesty straight off the bat, and given they can always ring your previous employer and ask anyways, you might as well tell the truth. So as you said you've learned from your mistakes, I'd be mentioning that as well. Self-evaluation and improvement is a big turn-on for potential emplyers
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Old 07 May 2009, 00:20   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Looking for some help in putting together my resume

Thanks for the replies so far!

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well perhaps lighting the fact that you worked for 5 years in a consistent job...should show non runner.
Yeah, but I got fired from that job. :-\ And I haven't held a job for a year since.

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objectives are a plain, non nonsense statement. My objective is to work as a (insert position/title here)for (insert company name here) or you can mix it up a little by stating your expertise in a field, then cojoining that to the company.
Sounds good. I'll have to make them customized for the job.

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resumes are impersonal life stories, have them strait to the point and summarized (10-30 seconds maximum viewed). Whos to say you have to highlight in red you were fired.
I don't actually mention it at all. :P

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The next thing is, the resumes will be the preliminary bombardments, highlight the goods, then prepare for the explanation in interviews. So what if you were fired...is there any redeeming features about it? anything to show loyalty? anything to work in favor?
Okay, so here's the thing, my real power has always been in customer service. I simply love to help people. I also really like learning all about whatever I'm doing and becoming an expert. Whether it's selling paint to housewives or helping physicians with computers, I've always prided myself in providing the best service and the most informed advice.

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Is there any way you can turn the two times you were fired into positives or even make them look less bad?
Probably not. The first it was because I took a management position I wasn't ready for, got myself in over my head and didn't act like a manager. Fired for inappropriate conduct.

The second time it was because we were warehoused in a room for 40 hours a week, given computers, passwords for the internet and nothing to do...but told not to get on the internet at all. I got fired for being on the internet. :P

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It would also depend on why you got fired. If you got fired because you were given too much work and not enough alloted resources/time to do it in, then you could probably explain that at any interview you got and leave it off your resume. If you were fired because you simply didn't understand the full remit and responsibilities of your post, then it would also depend on whether there was any training provided or if you were just "expected" to know things before you even started.
Can't really blame anyone but myself.

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I, personally, keep my resume quite light. Education, work history (the bits I want to mention. and under each job, I put my responsibilities in that position), applicable skills and references.
2 pages, three jobs? Sound about right?

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I never mention why I left any job on my resume, and when asked, I keep it extremely simple, truthful, and don't tell more than I have to. I tend to find those doing the employing like honesty straight off the bat, and given they can always ring your previous employer and ask anyways, you might as well tell the truth. So as you said you've learned from your mistakes, I'd be mentioning that as well. Self-evaluation and improvement is a big turn-on for potential emplyers
I know. If I could just get a job interview, I'm sure I could "wow" them. But getting the interview is the hard part. That's why I'm trying to get a "wow" resume. But it's just coming off as...well, bland and typical.
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Old 07 May 2009, 01:39   #6 (permalink)
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1 page for three jobs, only if you have little achievements. 2 if you really have to say something. Though it isnt unusual for 2 or more with people who have alot of education, training, and work backgrounds. By this time, the person is actually worth the time to skim over.

and so what, five years in any job can still say I wont leave. So what if you were fired, and everything sense has been hard. Theres 750k former salary people who now deliver pizza to get by. Reinforce it that you are looking for a consistent work enviornment then.

so you got fired for looking at the internet? what were you doing, looking for pORnz? would you be tempted by a do not push button?
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Old 07 May 2009, 02:09   #7 (permalink)
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so you got fired for looking at the internet? what were you doing, looking for pORnz? would you be tempted by a do not push button?
No. Apparently it was done as a random sweep by "volume". : My days were like this: show up at 8 AM. Log into the net and start listening to music / radio stream on my headphones. Then start painting miniatures. Lunch at noon. Home at 4:30 PM. Apparently 40 hours of streaming a week adds up. :P
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Old 07 May 2009, 10:02   #8 (permalink)
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Just remember your attitude to your job says a lot to who you are. If doing menial and boring job you can't excel at no amount of tall stories can land you that job that pays a fortune.

Unless you own the company (but still not a wise move), do not do personal things while in a workplace.

Resume's are 1 trick wonders, it's the easiest part in job hunting, you can fib a little, gloss a little, claim a little, all within reasonable bounds, all within your capability. Also customize your CV based on the 'keywords' of the employer posting the ad.

Unless you'll be applying in a financial or other sensitive info positions, character checks will be the last thing on the employers mind. They will take your word for it, and its up to you to live on your own 'hype' whatever image you projected yourself to be.

Try to practice answering sensitive interview questions, don't answer it truthfully when truth can hurt you, when in doubt say little. Look in the interviewers eyes, don't fidget, be conscious of your body signals, project thru your body the image you want to be.

I have a 5page resume and it always gets the attention, even if i position myself as a 'mercenary', (potential runner) I always get the job that I intend to. It's all in the matter of packaging yourself and making it appear a win-win for them. 11 jobs in 14 years, that's what my job hunting experience says.
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