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Old 07 Jun 2010, 20:41   #1 (permalink)
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Avatar;
Council; 7 Warlocks, Enhance, Embolden, 1 Farseer, Fortune.

5 Dragons;
8 Dragons;
Serpent
; Stones, Shuricannon.

6 Spiders; Exarch, Extra Spinner.

15 Guardians; Warlock, Conceal, Scatter Laser.
3 Bikes; Cannon
3 Bikes; Cannon
5 Rangers;

Falcon; Stones, Scatter Laser, Holo Fields.

Im trying to make quite a competative list, any advice? I originally had Harlequins rather than the council and Exarchs in the Dragons and combined the Bike squads.
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Old 08 Jun 2010, 16:42   #2 (permalink)
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Can't help ALL that much with the HQ, as seer councils and the Avatar are not used by me. I thought the avatar was to make things fearless, and this list is somewhat sparse in 'things'. I faced a fortuned council once, I lost, so there ya go.

So those 5 dragons are in the Falcon I assume, ok. 8 more dragons in a cheap serpent. These combined with council and avatar should whack armor and MC alike. Remember though that dragons have poor attrition, you had best hope they take out what they fire at.

I tried spiders once, and have become biased against them, so no comment.

15 guardians is a pretty good number (I run 14 plus a warlock, so might be the same squad). Now running these guys out of cover is nearly always a bad idea, especially with those jetbikes to nab those objectives. They should be stuck in to a nearby objective, hopefully in cover. Conceal is mostly unnecessary, but they tend to get shot at, assaulted, and overall stressed; so some embolden goes a long way.

Bikes with cannons, used them once, did alright. I can see an argument to make them one squad again but having two allows for 2 Objectives. its a matter of preference.

Rangers, Camp out and have fun. Maybe with some extra points make them pathfinders,or maybe you aren't that into them.

Definitely do not need dragon exarchs. I do think horde armies will do well against this army, but not exceptionally well. The council dislikes high #s of attacks, and the dragons and rangers don't really combat cheap units. But with focus firing from spiders, bikes and serpent, should be alright.
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Old 08 Jun 2010, 18:49   #3 (permalink)
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I'm assuming the Seer Council has Destructor on all the Warlocks other than the ones with Embolden and Enhance?
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The list looks fairly nice but I'm not a fan of Footslogging Guardians or the Avatar (never use them)... so I can't help there.

I'd trim down the Troops a bit. 4 choices at 1500 seems high. I think 3 is enough. I'd either drop one of the Jetbike squads or the Rangers if you're dead set on the Guardians. Or (better yet) you could go back to one big Guardian Jetbike squad. The flexibility is nice but I find larger squads to be more effective for me.

-> I like Spiders rather a lot, in fact I don't think I've ever had them "fail" me. They tend to shred most infantry regardless of cover... They can also do anti-tank quite handily if rear armor is 10. They're a great psychological weapon too because of their versatility and threat range. If you could find the points I'd up the squad size but I can't think of anywhere to trim points from.
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If you're in for a Horde or two you may find yourself hard pressed. The Council will incinerate anything close to it (5 templates do a lot of damage... but I'm sure you know that) but it's so slow moving that you might find it hard to get in range of enough targets to stop yourself from being overwhelmed...

edit: (see below) Ah, then I'd say you're going to have quite a rough time fighting Hordes...
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Old 08 Jun 2010, 18:57   #4 (permalink)
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Shas'o Ahab: I think the other warlocks may be there to take hits for the ones toting powers? Can't find my codex atm, but I do not think powers are required.
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Old 12 Jun 2010, 03:01   #5 (permalink)
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can you explain what you plan on using your troops for?
I think maybe get rid of a jetbike squad, or honestly just the 5 fire dragons. I dont see them doing to much on foot....
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Old 12 Jun 2010, 03:03   #6 (permalink)
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I believe the 5 Dragons are doing the classic "Dragon Wagon" thing---> I think they'll be transported by the Falcon.
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Old 12 Jun 2010, 03:08   #7 (permalink)
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(duuurrrr) alright my bad on that..kinda obvious...

im no fan of the avatar but if its what you want
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