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Old 08 Nov 2007, 11:26   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1500pts updated list

having looked over my previous ideas, i have changed my previous list.

i have dropped a falcon ( ) and added/tweaked some other stuff.

this is the new list:

HQ - Farseer - 193pts
- jetbike
- Singing spear
- Spirit Stones
- Runes of warding
- runes of witnessing (i had points spare - i will consider dropping these for a fusion gun on the autarch)
- Fortune psychic power
- Doom psychic power


HQ - Autarch - 160pts
- Jetbike
- mandiblasters
- laser lance
- reaper launcher


Elites - 6 fire dragons - 96pts

Elites - 6 harlequins - 178pts
- shadowseer
- 5 harlequins' Kiss
- Troope master with power weapon


Troops - 3 guardian Jetbikes - 76pts
- shuriken cannon

Troops - 3 guardian Jetbikes - 76pts
- shuriken cannon


Fast attack - 4 Shining Spears - 187pts
- exarch
- star lance
- hit and run
- skilled riders

Fast attack - Vyper - 80pts
- scatter laser
- shuriken cannon
- spirit stones

Fast attack - Vyper - 80pts
- scatter laser
- shuriken cannon
- spirit stones


Heavy Suport - Falcon Grav Tank - 185pts
- shuriken cannon
- holo-fields
- vectored engines
- spirit stones

Heavy Suport - Falcon Grav Tank - 185pts
- shuriken cannon
- holo-fields
- vectored engines
- spirit stones


total - 1496pts (or 1486 if i dont bother with the runes of witnessing on the farseer)


general thoughts:

1) the autarch MIGHT travel around with the singing spears. his current role though is to sniper marine combat squads to below scoring and generally pester MEQ lists.

2) i refuse to drop anything other than runes of witnessing on my farseer - she has worked VERY WELL for me in that configuration in the past.

3) this is my basic role/strategy for each squad:

Farseer - selects a unit i dont like, dooms them, selects a unit i do like, fortunes them :P. she has been known to suicide charge defilers and such if there is nothing else around and i need to deal with them (str 9 is VERY handy )

Autarch (explained in (1))

fire dragons - land raider huggers. if there are no heavy tanks around (from predator upwards), they go TEQ hunting. might purchase a bare exarch for the +1BS

harlequins - for simply messing up any unit that threatens my battleplan (such as MC's with multi-shot weapons, autocannon squads etc)

jetbikes - anti-horde in a pinch but mainly for objective contesting/claiming

vypers - serious anti-horde!!!

falcons - we all know (though if they can shoot in any given turn, they will be gunning for armour)
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Old 09 Nov 2007, 13:45   #2 (permalink)
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what is it with people minimising on troops. 1 of your hqs is more expensive than your entire troops! troops are supposed to make up 60% of your army, hence 6 slots. please take some more troop choices. guardians (as much as i hate them) do reasonably well. they are in bigger squads, have a heavy weapon option and are cheap. it takes longer to kill 6 guardians than 2 jetbikes. plus they get overlooked. please take more in your troop choice slots!
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 09:44   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by limpchickeninabizkit
what is it with people minimising on troops. 1 of your hqs is more expensive than your entire troops! troops are supposed to make up 60% of your army..................please take more in your troop choice slots!
how are these for the reasons:

1) i wanted a jetbike heavy army

2) i purchased the wind rider and cloudstrike apocolypse boxes.

3) for when i play apocolypse, the wind rider strategem REQUIRES that i minimise the squads in the box to make the whole unit.

4) that gives me 9 jetbikes, a jetbike autarch, 2 vypers and 3 falcons (i couldnt fit one of the falcons in but everything else is there)


Quote:
what is it with people minimising on troops
what is it with people who think that we HAVE to incluide models we dont want into our armies.


i wanted people to rate how this army would perform - not abuse me becuase i wanted a certain feel to my army.


at any rate, the list has changed. this is the new one:


HQ
Farseer - 183pts
- jetbike
- singing spear
- runes of warding
- spirit stones
- fortune
- doom

Autarch - 160pts
- jetbike
- laser lance
- mandiblasters
- reaper launcher


Elites
6 fire dragons - 108pts
- exarch (no upgrades, had points spare)

6 howling banshees - 123pts
- exarch
- executioner for exarch


Troops
3 guardian jetbikes - 76pts
- shuriken cannon

3 guardian jetbikes - 76pts
- shuriken cannon

3 guardian jetbikes - 76pts
- shuriken cannon


Fast Attack
4 shining spears - 187pts
- exarch
- star lance (for exarch)
- withdraw
- skilled rider

vyper - 80pts
- scatter laser
- shuriken cannon
- spirit stones

vyper - 80pts
- scatter laser
- shuriken cannon
- spirit stones


heavy support
falcon - 205pts
- holo-fields
- spirit stones
- vectored engines
- star cannon

falcon - 210pts
- holo-fields
- spirit stones
- vectored engines
- bright lance

1498 points total


how does this list look??
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Old 12 Nov 2007, 11:29   #4 (permalink)
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I'm not saying the list didn't look good or anything, and i wasn't abusing (sorry if it seemed that way) but for your troops an idea is just take a heap of jetbikes. If you are going windrider go with a heap of jetbikes. your list is fluffy and would be okay to play, but not against. i have played with min troops and max everything else and people hate it. give it a whirl a few times, but you want a jetbike heavy army, take more basic jetbikes. i resepect how you want it to be a certain way, but you have to think about the people you are against as well. The second list is much better IMHO. if you can, try taking 4 squads of 6 jetbikes. 2 cannons in each and have that flying around. but yeah, sorry if i seemed a bit harsh, i had no intention of seeming like that.
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