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Old 02 Dec 2009, 05:07   #1 (permalink)
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What do you guys think about shining spear? I think they are kind of experience, point and money. I know they can blow up tank so easy. Beside that what else can they do?
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Old 02 Dec 2009, 05:23   #2 (permalink)
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In my opinion, while Shining Spears can be great in assault and at hunting tanks, they are something of a one trick pony. Even a 5 man squad isn't going to bring that many attacks first turn, and if anything is left or they get stuck in assault (no withdraw) they will not faire well.

So in summary... Shining Spears are great for assaulting weakened squads of marines, or basically any heavily armored troop and hunting tanks. However, they can't do anything and are expensive and vulnerable to fire.

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Old 02 Dec 2009, 05:36   #3 (permalink)
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I mean they can do good damage against tank, but they cannot take hit, they are so easy to get killed. Moreover, other aspect can do the same job as shining spear. I think shining spear is only collectable nor playable.
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Yeah i would take Fire dragons any day
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Old 02 Dec 2009, 07:14   #5 (permalink)
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That's why you place a Autarch in there to give the squad 6 S6 power weapon hits on the charge. They are you're lance calvary; They hit hard and fast but if bogged down they will be destroyed. And that is why you have hit and run as well.

I don't think they are that good at popping tanks. If I am correct they do have the lance spacial rule at a 6inch S6 shot but that still means you needs 6s to glance. Now the Exarch Star Lance(or whatever the devil it is called) is a awesome piece of anti-tank and anti monstrous creatures.
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In my eyes they are way to expensive. Especially if you consider that they only have 1 wound. The unit dies fast if fired at and even faster if they encounter fast CC troops (jetpack or bike). Sure you could try and avoid them but then you get an endless waltz to avoid the opponent.

The option of taking an Autarch is a sound one. It increases both survivability and CC prowess of the squad. I would see them mostly functioning with either Saim-han lists, or lists in need of a mobile element (but I'd consider other options first).

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I got them just recently, and in a game against necrons they did a great deal of damage. first off, one spear and the exarch(one was shot down) were charged by a tomb spyder, and it got killed before it could attack back. Next, they charged and killed a destroyer. after that, they were charged by warriors. although they did all die eventually, they held the warriors down long enough for by banshees to slog it over and kill 8 warriors, forcing the phase out.So, what im saying is, if you use some simple strategy(fortune them, keep them out of sight whenever possible, make use of the 6" extra move in the assault phase), then they can make up their points pretty easily.
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Old 02 Dec 2009, 16:40   #8 (permalink)
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first off, one spear and the exarch(one was shot down) were charged by a tomb spyder, and it got killed before it could attack back.
Damn that is some pretty impressive dice rolling. Did he fail all his armour saves?
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Old 02 Dec 2009, 19:50   #9 (permalink)
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first off, one spear and the exarch(one was shot down) were charged by a tomb spyder, and it got killed before it could attack back.
Damn that is some pretty impressive dice rolling. Did he fail all his armour saves?
I'm sorry but i think if he an exarch and a spear got charged it would be impossible for them to take down a spyder in one round. Hitting with str 3, one attack for the spear and two for the exarch.. simply not happening. I'm going to guess that he forgot that their lances only count as str 6 PW's when they initiate a charge .

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Old 02 Dec 2009, 22:59   #10 (permalink)
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That was what i was thinking but anything can happen...
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