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Old 26 May 2005, 11:00   #1 (permalink)
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Default Im gonna have a 500pt battle soon

me and epc-Felix are gonna have a 500pt battle tonight and/or tomoro

I ofcource will use Ulthwe, and he is using Space Marines, most likely Crimson Fists

i was wondering if there are cretain units that are more effective or less effective against the CFs compared to the SMs?

my current guys are in my sig, thanks
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Old 26 May 2005, 20:49   #2 (permalink)
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Hmm....how about this:

Seer Council - 90
fortune - 30
guide - 20
augment x 2 - 10
enhance - 15

Warp spiders - 110
exarch - 12
surprise assault - 15

Black Guardians storm squad x 8 - 64
plasma and krak grenades - 16
fusion guns x 2 - 8

Black Guardian defenders x 8 - 64
Bright lance - 50

Total: 504 points.

Epic-Felix collects Tau doesn't he because I've geared this army more against Tau.

Guide works wonders on either guardian squad and fortune is of course for the seer council. There are 2 augments to make sure that guide hits home and enhance to make the council better in combat. It should be used to hold objectives, increase other units abilities and tie up really nasty units.

The Warp spiders move fast so they can be used to quickly close with the enemy and harass them. The high strength weapon makes sure that large numbers of tu fire warriors quickly die and surprise assault works very well against Tau as Tau are non close combat units.

Black Storm squad are your close combat troops which can take out fire warriors and can take out battlesuits as well with fusion guns.

Defenders are infantry killers at close range and with the bright lance can also go tank hunting.

This is the army I would use. Good luck for your game anyway ;D
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yes he does collect tau, but he is also starting Space Marines,

i went with the Guardians and Warp Spiders, but i thought id try out proxying an Avatar, and some Dark Reapers

he has 2 Sactical Squads each with 2 specal weapons(i forget), a Chaplain joined one squad and the other was in a tank(i forget also)

so far my Storm Guard got destroyed in one round of shooting,
i took 1 SM out with my Spiders by shooting,
1 by my Reapers,
and my Avatar took out 2 in CC
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Old 27 May 2005, 15:22   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Im gonna have a 500pt battle soon

Bear in mind that a seer council is compulsory in an Ulthwe army.

Also, how did you use Dark Reapers - according to your sig you only have 2...
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Old 27 May 2005, 15:50   #5 (permalink)
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Also, how did you use Dark Reapers - according to your sig you only have 2...
proxy is a beautiful thing ^^;

unfortunatly reapers are too expensive to use in a small game (in my opinion) ^^;
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I agree. In general I think that you shouldn't use heavy support of any kind in games of 500 points or less as they tend to take up too many points. However things such as war walkers are an exception.
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Old 27 May 2005, 16:06   #7 (permalink)
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i think a wraithlord in a 500 point game would be ok.. it could be succeptable to massed fire though.
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well for an iyaden army i think it would be acceptable. However when we are talking ulthwe, and considering how wraithlords are meant to be rare sights on the battlefield I think it best that you give it a miss for now and put it in your 1000pt list instead.

If you want some heavy weaopn support other than weapons platforms consider some fast vyper squadrons or warwalkers (with squads like this having the potential for such massed firepower, guiding them would be very wise!)

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i lost by like 30 points, cause he went all out and charged in his last turn
but it was pretty close, and my Reapers did fairly good though i was afraid to move them too close

all in all it was a good game
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oh well....pity about that but as long as you had fun - that's the most important thing.
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