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Old 15 Apr 2005, 18:11   #1 (permalink)
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Beil Tan Tournament List

HQ

Farseer - with guide and singing spear, runes of witnesing – 93pts

Farseer - with guide and singing spear – 88 pts

Troops

10 Warp spiders – 220 pts

10 Warp spiders – 220 pts

10 Warp spiders – 220 pts

10 Warp spiders – 220 pts

9 Fire Dragons – 153 pts

9 Fire Dragons – 153 pts

Heavy support

Wraithlord with starcannon – 120pts

Wraithlord with starcannon – 120pts

2 D cannons – 80 pts

Transport

Wave serpent – twin linked bright lances, crystal targeting matrix – 155pts

Wave serpent – twin linked bright lances, crystal targeting matrix – 155pts

Total Points = 1997 pts

HQ –9 %
Elites – NA
Troops –74.9 %
Fast Attack – NA
Heavy Support –16 %

Well thats the list tell me what you think?
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Old 15 Apr 2005, 18:25   #2 (permalink)
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I like that list.* It's balanced in that it has loads of troops. Perhaps it has a few too many troops even! Also IMO it has everything it needs - anti tank weapons, anti infantry weapons, fast units, psykers, anti marine guns and big heavy kill everything guns.

I presume that the two transports will be transporting the fire dragons and that one farseer will be staying behind with the d cannons and the other will be going in the front lines with the warp spiders and wraithlords

The one thing I will say is that - it has no exarchs.* This is a weakness as exarchs can just bring that little bit more to the role which can secure the victory on the battlefield.* I would definitely try to take a fire dragon exarch and firepike.

It's only other weakness is that it is weak in assault.* The fire dragons will be ripped apart - the farseers will survive but not kill - and the spiders won't kill much if they are engaged.* Hopefully though - due to their fast movement they will be able to avoid assault and the wraithlords, although slow and lumbering can come in to support.
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Old 18 Apr 2005, 00:33   #3 (permalink)
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I think Tau-killer summed it up pretty well. The list seems great! You might want to consider giving one of the farseers fortune to help the wraithlords of warp spiders. Put it in a serpent with the fire dragons and stay within 6" of the spiders and help them out. Just a thought though.
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Old 18 Apr 2005, 17:21   #4 (permalink)
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I have a few points.
1. d cannons are 50 a piece, not 40
2.I would take CTM off the serpents and replace with a holo field and spirit stone, I think that costs the same, reason being the serpents are transports, not snipers.

I assume the far seers are guiding the wraithlords as they are the only thing in your list that they can keep up with, I like this idea, my wraithlord likes to play "make the marines dance rather than killing them" game, but if you mean they guide the serpents, as they have CTM, I don't think thats a good idea, as stated before.

On another note I love the spider list! best aspect ever!
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Fristly the Farseers will not or should not be guiding the serpants as it will have no effect. I would actually recomend taking frotune instead of guide on both farseers and joining them with the fire dragon squads. Avatar is 100% right... give your serpants holo fields and spirit stones instead, this will make them extremely hard to kill.
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Old 19 Apr 2005, 07:04   #6 (permalink)
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Guide is the reroll to hit right? Makes dman good sence to put it with the firedragons and blast away and reroll the misses for a totally lethal effect.

Spiders are good but way weak imo but have fun the army looks cool
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You should probably give the Exarchs Withdrawal or sumfink. I've seen a Warp Spider army before, and that mega-attack rle isn't so good.

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A little off-topic, but what does everyone think about a fire dragon shrine for Biel tenn. Have 3 squads of fire dragons all in wave serpents and 3 smaller squads in falcons and a farseer. It would be horrible agains swarm armies (which is why you'd give the waveserpents and falcons shurricannons), but since more than half the people at tournies are SMurfs it could fair pretty well.
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It wont fair very well vs smurfs believe me those vehciles will be shot down asap and you'll b left with very short ranged units with a very high power.
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I'm not so sure about that. If they're given holo field and spirit stone the wave serpent can survive for some time. The wraithlords will be excellent marine killers from distance and excellent marine killers in combat. The fire dragons too have weapons designed just to kill Smurfs in power armour - and the fast moving warp spiders will be easily able to outflank and harass the Smurf infantry - and because of the sheer amount of shots that will be fired at such a high strength - many will kill...
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