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Old 23 Feb 2007, 08:34   #1 (permalink)
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Default 750 Tourny Eldar - Design my list: Fast replys please

Heya
I am trying to get an eldar army of 750 points size completely painted up for an upcoming tournament in my country, and need to know how I should get these guys done list wise.
I have the following minitures to work with:
Farseer
10 Rangers/Pathfinders
5 Dark Reapers (havnt assembled Exarch)
From the experience I have had is that:
Reaper Exarchs with Tempest Launchers are indeed worth it.
Pathfinders are awesome (infiltraite near objective, moe into with scout rule, hold off with Pathfinder accuracy.)
Reapers have excellent damage output but can't take it. Even with a Fortuned Seer in there squad.

* Thanks, I need replys on how to make this list quickly.
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Old 23 Feb 2007, 11:26   #2 (permalink)
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Hazard,
Alright, here's a stab at it:


1 x Farseer - with RoWi, Spirit Stones, Guide & Fortune.
2 x 5 Pathfinders
1 x 5 Dark Reapers - Exarch, Fast Shot

Total: 582 points

The Reaper Exarch is pushing it unless you can get yours assembled & painted (WYSIWYG rule). But if you did, you could over 50 more points with another body & a tempest launcher.

So you're still going to need some stuff to make it work at 750 points.
Anyway, drop the pathfinder upgrade and Exarch upgrade, and Fast shot upgrade and you can get under the 500 point window. Keep the Farseer with the Reapers to Guide them and keep them alive with Fortune. Infiltrate the Rangers to snipe targest and run away when things get too close.

It could be a pretty nasty 500 point army list. BTW, with the Reaper Exarch, Eldar Missile Launcher would the more versitile and, thus, better weapon choice for these smaller point games.
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Old 24 Feb 2007, 08:17   #3 (permalink)
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I played a rather similar 750 point force:

Farseer, 2 powers, Stones
4 Reapers
5 Pathfinders
5 Jetbikes
6 Hawks

I have to say I found this list very hard to use. Firstly the points per model is very high for the troops you have chosen. The suggested list above has 16 models and averages over 35 points per model. Whilst they have a long range effectiveness, Pathfinders and reapers are actually poor at take and hold since in h-t-h the rangers die very quickly, its something I tried and failed at myself.
Secondly adding anything to a long range based force will split the force, my hawks and bikes are easily destroyed as they have no support in h-t-h or close range. Long range troops are no help if your squad is in h-t-h.
If i was looking to flesh out to 750 I would look at something fast which can be adaptable and something which functions in h-t-h. The h-t-h can be used defensively to counter anyone looking to attack your reapers or offensively as scorpions could be used to quickly advance and bolster the pathinders. A warwalker squadron of 2 or 3 is reasonably fast and adaptable. They can scout move closer to your pathfinders to support them and be configured for any range of fire power, in this case I suggest mix scatter laser and anti tank.

Thats just my opinion based on my own woeful battle experiences hope it helps.
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Old 25 Feb 2007, 07:26   #4 (permalink)
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Heya
I have had a few games with that^^ and (what the store has) 6 Scorpians with an Exarch with Biting Blade, Falcon with Twin Starcannons, Shuricannon and 5 Dire Avengers with Exarch with Storm and Avenger catapaults.
I had a game against a AS Cannon Ultramarine list:
Chaplin, 6 Termys (2 AS cannons) in a Crusader, Bike squad, Assault Marine Squad, 1 Marine Squad, Dev Squad, Dread with A.S Cannon.
Now that I realise it, that guyonly had one troop!

I was in a very commanding posting thw whole game except the end. It was Capture the objective, By the end of my last turn I had a Falcon, 5 Dire Avengers, Scorpian Squad in there, all at full strength. All units were at the top level of building except falcon. I bladestormed the rear armour of his dread, 2 glancing, blowing off it's A.s Cannon and stopping it from moving or shooting.
He Took my Dire Avenger squad out, and took the scorpains under half strength..
That's pretty much it, he won somerhing like 2-1.
The Tempest launcher took out his whole bike squad, and half his assault marine squad, the falcon was nice.
I know I need, more speed, C-C, fast punch, and anti tank, I had none in that game because No models had any.
What do you think I should do.
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Old 25 Feb 2007, 13:53   #5 (permalink)
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I saw the game, and yea... I realise now he only had one troop choice.

do you want more shooty/resilience, or more fast/shooty?
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Old 26 Feb 2007, 07:18   #6 (permalink)
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Hey,
Well.
I have written another list, rough, did it in my head this morning on the bus to school
Seer
Spear
Bike
Doom

10 Dire Avengers
Exarch, Catapaults, Storm
- Wave Serpent, Twin Lances

10 Dire Avengers
Exarch, Catapaults, Storm
- Wave Serpent, Twin Scatter Lasers

5 Rangers

I'm pretty sure that makes 750?
The idea is pretty straightforward, Seer, runs around dooming targets for dire Avengers and anti tanking, the Dire Avengers..kill stuff :P And Rangers add supportive fire.
Thats one, list without CC punch. I'll write another tonight.
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Old 26 Feb 2007, 10:55   #7 (permalink)
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Very nice list, looks a lot like mine!

This is for conflict yes?

Well, if so it should do well... I've been playing my list (which is a lot like this one) and I've won by quite a lot of points, should do well against Close Combat armies, footsloggers, and low armour value hoardes...

(I've owned three different space wolves lists, Tau and Alaitoc Eldar so far.)
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Old 27 Feb 2007, 06:09   #8 (permalink)
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You have? That's good then.
The only thing I worry about is lack of CC Punch, have you foind this a problem?
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Old 27 Feb 2007, 10:40   #9 (permalink)
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CC pucnh isn't needed when you can outrun your opponant every turn... and then pound him with your guns... it's best if you can out manouvre him.
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Old 28 Feb 2007, 01:01   #10 (permalink)
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Fair enough,
However, I really think I should encorparate more models I have bought into my army list.
- Rangers/Pathfinders
- Box of Reapers
- Footslogging Seer.
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