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Old 16 Jan 2005, 23:06   #1 (permalink)
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Default new army need advice

i just bought my freinds eldar force, it is no good(in my opinion).
8 dire avengers
6 rangers
4 howling bashees
jain zar
farseer

what should i get?
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 09:46   #2 (permalink)
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You need at least one more troop choice, for the sake of making the army legal.
Were you intending to collect a certain Craftworld, or just Vanilla Eldar?
I suggest a squad of Defender Guardians, and maybe a Vyper or two for now.
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 13:25   #3 (permalink)
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naw-aw! i have 3 troops! 2 squads of rangers and 1 squad of dire avengers.
can i field my howling bashees with jain zar in them or do i have to get 5 of them?
and yes, vipers look pretty good.
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 17:39   #4 (permalink)
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I agree with Restayvien, buy some Guardian Defenders, and mabee some Warp Spiders, or Dark Reapers
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 18:45   #5 (permalink)
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dark reapers ae good, but warp spiders?
they are jet packers without close combat wepons! the only good thing is a 3+ save.
to me, thats regular, not good.
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 18:48   #6 (permalink)
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Spiders aren't there to be assult troops, they are there to jump in, deliver a fair bit of high strength, low ap firepower, and then jet out again before the enemy can get them.
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Old 17 Jan 2005, 18:58   #7 (permalink)
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low AP, riiiiiiiiiiight. AP- isnt low!
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Old 18 Jan 2005, 17:32   #8 (permalink)
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Right...

Get some more troops. Two squads of 3 rangers and a squad of dire avengers is legal. Unfortunately it is also cheesy and (in my opinion) rubbish. Get a squad of at least 10 guardians (storm or defender) with a warlock and a heavy weapons platform for the firepower.

In answer to your earlier question you need to get another howling banshee to make the squad legal. Jain Zar doesn't count towards the squad number. While you're getting that, I recommend you get another five as well. Big squads are better than small squads. You could also get a wave serpent to transport them (and also for its firepower.) I'd also recommend a good large squad of fast attack, perhaps shining spears for the anti attack capabilities. As for the rest...I leave it up to you to decide.

I've written a larger and more detailed post on this subject on "New Eldar player that needs help" which you've posted on so you've probably read it. Hope the advice helps.
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Old 18 Jan 2005, 18:46   #9 (permalink)
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low AP, riiiiiiiiiiight. AP- isnt low!
Yeah, true. My bad.

Definitley get some more defenders, as I use an ulthwe list I find that it's cheaper to take a large squad of black guardian defenders than a small squad of Dire Avengers. Do not underestimate the damage these guys can dish out, and they can charge into assault to support the Banshees.
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heavy support wise you could always field a good ol' wraithlord or falcon
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