[Wagner]

Can the Warp spiders fire their death spinners then assault in the same turn? The rulebook says they cant shoot and fire rapid fire weapons, but in alot of articles warp spiders can shoot and fire. So can they shoot and fire? Thanks.

[AuinMyrrath]

"Shooting" and "firing" tend to work out to the same thing...

Warp Spiders may not assault after firing their Death Spinners; only an Exarch with the Assault2 model can do that.

[Falstead]

No.

The articles you've read probably date from 3rd edition (when the current Eldar codex was written) so they're out of date. In 4th edition you cannot fire rapid fire weapons and then assault.

However rumour has it in the new forthcoming Eldar codex due out in a couple of months the Warpsiders deathspinners will be switching to assault weapons. It's unclear wether or not they will be assault 2 or assault 3, only time will tell...

[thetrojansheep]

as of now, the warp spiders are designed for one of two rolls:
1) Shoot and Run
2) Repetetive Assault

Unfortunatly, you can't really do both...

[Xyster]

> give me my 2nd edition deathspinners when they were deadly .. they should renamethem to eehspinners or maybedeathspinners... I WANT MY TEMPLATE BACK ...... I want my swooping hawk exarch with vortex grenade but i don't see that happening either

[GedofParagon]

Originally Posted by Xyster

> give me my 2nd edition deathspinners when they were deadly .. they should renamethem to eehspinners or maybedeathspinners... I WANT MY TEMPLATE BACK ...... I want my swooping hawk exarch with vortex grenade but i don't see that happening either

Xyster,

Good times! I remember when a single squad of warp spiders could blanket a unit in template death, and rack up dozens of hits. Can you imagine it under the current rules though? You'd lay the template once and multiply the # of hits by the # of Spiders in the squad...

Fun Stuff,
Ged

[Yriel of Iyanden]

Originally Posted by GedofParagon

Good times! I remember when a single squad of warp spiders could blanket a unit in template death, and rack up dozens of hits. Can you imagine it under the current rules though? You'd lay the template once and multiply the # of hits by the # of Spiders in the squad...

If the rules for hitting were like they used to be, then MEQ's would fare this way:

6 Warp Spiders vs 10 MEQ's (Current rules, rounded numbers))

12 shots, 8 hits, 7 wounds, 2 deaths.

2nd Edition Rules (assuming each template hits 5 marines on average)

30 hits, 10 caught, 3 deaths.

It's not that bad until you run the numbers for orcs and GEQ's. Ouch!!!