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Old 08 Dec 2004, 12:25   #1 (permalink)
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I have been playing Eldar for like a year now and have never used a Farseer ( I grew to hate psykers in rogue trader and 2nd edition and never use them, no matter which army I play). In the past 34 games (we keep track of victories at out store) I've had 32 wins and 2 draws. I have found that the farseer isn't a necessity at all. Granted now I play Non-cheese Biel-tan (0-1 wraithlord, 1 of every aspect squad before you can have a 2nd, all lead by the avatar, couple of Falcons to run people around, and so on) so maybe all the Aspect warriors make up for this loss, but I was wondering do most players rely on the farseer or are there other non-psyker eldar out there.

Obviously the Uthwe seer council guys and Iyanden need them but what of others?
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Old 08 Dec 2004, 13:21   #2 (permalink)
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Well, the advantages a Seer can confer are rather useful. Acess to Warlocks allows Gaurdians double the survivability of normal, as well as making the Stromies deadlier. Also, Guide and fortune are handy on many an occason, and mind war's an excellent way to assassinate a particular model you dislike
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Farseers are sometimes useless but at other times they can be great. I remember in one game I played, my Farseer (using Mindwar) in one game took out a Bloodthirster, Kharn the Betrayer and two khorne Berzerkers. Guide too can be really useful, especially when used on BS3 vehicles to ensure that as many starcannons and pulselasers hit the enemy as possible
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Old 08 Dec 2004, 19:05   #4 (permalink)
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The Eldar army seems to me to be split into those units that need a seer of some sort, and those that have exarchs or are already dead.
All the guardians, jetbikes, vehicles etc, have a rather mediocre shooting ability. Guide does wonders for helping these guys do the damage. Guardians are there to have warlock powers added, WS 5 Guardians are not to be sneezed at, now matter how hard you try.

But then Aspect warriors are fine without these powers, though some do benefit quite markedly.
5 strong squad of scorpions, including exarch, with Farseer with fortune is dead hard. Especially against Tau.
Reapers do benefit occasionally from guide, they just stop missing!
Things like that.

Some eldar armies work fine witout any seers, some need them. It all depends on whether the units are there to be upgraded, or are already good enough by themselves.
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Old 09 Dec 2004, 10:42   #5 (permalink)
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As I play an Ulthwe army I can't really comprehend having no psykers. ;D j/k
I do like the Seer Council though. I'd be far more inclined to take the Avatar if he was even slightly survivable, but most games I use him in he ends up being slaughtered. He was killed in combat by 3 orks. For a Demi-god, that's embarrasing.
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Old 09 Dec 2004, 13:29   #6 (permalink)
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I liked what hunter said, I guess I picked the right Craftworld for someone who hates psykers- Biel-tan can survive and flourish without the farseer's help.
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Old 09 Dec 2004, 15:05   #7 (permalink)
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i play without one, but it's not working too well in my saim hann army(avatar keeps getting left behind) so im making a farseer on a jetbike.
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Cool, they are very nasty, a model that can move over 12" and land an ordnance template at up to 12"(24" if you play clever). >
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i can't wait for the new HQ, i don't always wanna play with a farseer but it gets unfluffy to have ur avatar lead every mission
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i can't wait for the new HQ, i don't always wanna play with a farseer but it gets unfluffy to have ur avatar lead every mission
It's actually unfluffy for the farseer to lead every mission! Who honestly predicts an aincient seer going on patrol? :
This new HQ choice will be very greatly appreciated by all Eldar players
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