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Resetting the Balance: Wraithlords
View Poll Results: How would you make the Warithlord fairer?
I think it's fine already 1 2.56%
Starcannon/Bright Lance points increase for W/L 1 2.56%
Alteration of stats 2 5.13%
Increased point's cost 5 12.82%
0-1 Limit per every 1000 points 11 28.21%
0-1 limit per detachment 0 0%
0-1 limit per army 6 15.38%
Other (Specify) 2 5.13%
I think it's fine already 11 28.21%
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 10:43   #1 (permalink)
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Default Resetting the Balance: Wraithlords

A simple little poll here to find out an issue most 40k players have a veiw on: The Wraithlord. Which of the above methods would you use to rebalance the Wraithlord?

If you select 'other' please specify what your idea is.
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 11:17   #2 (permalink)
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I would say its Balanced as it is. The only real problem is people taking 3 of them in a 1000pts Army, so some kind of limitation would be good. 1 Every 1000pts. (Except for Iyandan of course!)
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Yeah, 1 per 1,000 would be good...
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Default Re: Resetting the Balance: Wraithlords

I don't see why the Wraithlord needs 'rebalancing.' It's fine as it is. Of course it would be stupid to have three in a 1000 point army (unless you were playing with Iyanden) but the wraithlord isn't an invincible war machine. Faced with railguns or powerfists or lascannons etc (or even massed rapid fire from Fire Warriors' pulse carbines) the wraithlord tends to lose wounds and die a surprising amount of times. i ought to know...
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ok then, maybe they shouldnt have a limit to how many you can take (except obviously 3 heavy support choices) but they do just seem far to good for theyre points cost, raise it to 100 i say or 90 at least. I mean it can mount great weapons and most basic troops form most armies cant even touch it in close combat.


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Default Re: Resetting the Balance: Wraithlords

bear in mind that the 'great weapons' cost points as well. For a starcannon which most Eldar players seem to use, it costs an extra 45 points - three fifths of the wraithlord's original cost. Even for something like a shuriken cannon the wraithlord will cost at least 100 points anyway, no need to raise the initial points cost
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Old 04 Dec 2004, 18:40   #7 (permalink)
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I'd still think that the 1 per 1000 pts thing is a great Idea... they are not supposed to be as common as a chimera or rhino.. they are supposed to be rare, revered constructions.. so I think thats be a great move.
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so do i, i have to play an opponent with 3 wriathlords in a 100-1500 pts battle, it isnt fun! usually the only way i lose is if it gets into cc with me. The wraithlord is basically a dreadnought with remarkable toughness, it can plough through weak troops (gaurd, FW's) and should either be 1 in 1000 pts ( i agree with triallian, think about it they are meant to be rare) and a higher points cost, or you could make it suffer from wraithsight...that would be a nice twist!
 
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Lol.. wraithsight, now that WOULD be fun.... >
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I pity u Village Idiot. 3 Wraithlords in 1500 point battles is not good. I suppose 1 for every 1000 points is fair enough (it wouldn't affect me i've got 2 for my 2500 point army) but if GW actually limited the amount of wraithlords u can have like that, people will start trying to restrict other things - eg "Tau should only have a maximum of three railguns, Imperial Guard should only have one ordinance weapon, Tyranids should only have a maximum of one carnifex" and the fun would be taken out of the game because everybody would be trying to restrict everything

Wraithsight would be interesting but I don't want it for obvious reasons!
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