[adreal]

HQ
Lucius the Eternal =160pts
not completly sold on this guy, but I don't have a lord with claws yet...thats what I'de swap him out with.....okay maybe lord with blissgiver

ELITES
Dreadnought
-Heavy Flamer
-Multi Melta
=105pts
Should give a comp boost as it's a dreadnought, and not just a choppy dread either.....

TROOPS
7 Noise Marines
-Champ with Doom Siren and Power Weapon
-Rhino
=220pts
HQ rides in here, if I drop lucius I'll swap out for a powerfist as well

10 Chaos Space Marines
-Icon of Slaanesh
-2 Meltaguns
-Champ with Powerfist
-Rhino with Combi-Melta
=275pts

10 Chaos Space Marines
-Icon of Slaanesh
-2 Plasma Guns
-Champ with Powerfist
-Rhino
=275pts
I realise cult troops are alot better, being fearless they ignore the negitives of loose a transport, and don't need Icon's to have benifits, but the basic CSM is a good troops choice, and pure cult armies are very small, and not all emperors children are noise marines

12 Noise Marines
-11 Sonic Blasters
-1 Blastmaster
=335pts
yes.....33 bolter shots @ 24" range and a slightly higher strength plasma cannon that causes pinning

HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator
-Autocannon
-2 Heavy Bolters
=100pts

Predator
-Autocannon
-2 Heavy Bolters
=100pts

Predator
-Twin-linked Lascannon
-2 Lascannons
=165pts
Not the best use of my heavy support slots, as oblits and vindi's both tend to be better, but you never see pred's these days, might not loose comp for all my heavy support slots when they see that it's preds.....

TOTAL=1735pts

[Grindgobble Witherfume]

Doesn't seem too bad. Lucius doesn't seem too solid on paper, so IMO a lord would be a much better choice. BlissGiver still has lots of things it can kill and could potentially devastate ork nob units. Dread is 'meh', But I'd heard of them working well. the troops all look good, but I'd swap out the plasmaguns for more meltaguns to help furhter with anti-tank and to be able to Instant kill T4 units. I've found meltaguns to be infinitively more useful then plasmaguns so far. Preds are fine, I like the tank myself and three will be a pain to kill as they are pretty durable.

Your list is not something I've seen completely before, and I feel it'd do rather well.

[adreal]

Yeah, Lucius is fairly....meh, but I'll give him a run, the powerfist may be needed so I'll probs end up dropping him.....but we'll see.

I'm getting one of the forgeworld ones (well two but only using one) so I want to use the dread, it can do well.....or it can just blast me to pieces :

If I had more meltaguns I would swap them out, but....alas I do not, still plasmaguns do get the bonus of rapidfire plasma death

Yeah the preds should be fun, everyone seems to gloss over them for vindi's or oblits, but they are a strong tank, so hopefully they should do fine

[Chork Naghriz]

In my experience Lucius is good, and worth his points
Combined with the 2NM squads, 3 Predators
It should do well

[Cadaver]

I would really recommend the multimelta on the dread. It's a much more effective anti-tank weapon and if it goes crazy and shoots your dudes it's only taking out one. A plasma blast is bad news for marines and is better left to Oblits. Go multimelta; I'm getting some for my dreads as I've seen them work all too well playing against Goatboy's Chaos army.

[limpchickeninabizkit]

Cadaver, fire frenzy makes you fire twice, so it can kill two guys.....

As per usual Adreal I dig the list, the only thing I'd probably change is Lucius. Some people just have a bug up their arse when it comes to special characters. You can run a normal lord that'd be more effective and noone would care, but the fact Lucius has his own personal profile, people will go a bit loco.

Just my 2 cents, spend it as you will.

[adreal]

Originally Posted by Chork Naghriz

In my experience Lucius is good, and worth his points
Combined with the 2NM squads, 3 Predators
It should do well

I'll defenatly give him a try, the two doom sirens make him worth it on paper, but he might not make it on the table so to speak

Originally Posted by Cadaver

I would really recommend the multimelta on the dread. It's a much more effective anti-tank weapon and if it goes crazy and shoots your dudes it's only taking out one. A plasma blast is bad news for marines and is better left to Oblits. Go multimelta; I'm getting some for my dreads as I've seen them work all too well playing against Goatboy's Chaos army.

The reason for the plasma cannon, is I'm using a blastmaster arm (ahh forge world dreads, so lovely) so a template weapon would make sense, still it's counts-as so anything (within reason) goes.....it would save me 5 points....

Originally Posted by Why So Serious?

Cadaver, fire frenzy makes you fire twice, so it can kill two guys.....

As per usual Adreal I dig the list, the only thing I'd probably change is Lucius. Some people just have a bug up their D'yi when it comes to special characters. You can run a normal lord that'd be more effective and noone would care, but the fact Lucius has his own personal profile, people will go a bit loco.

Just my 2 cents, spend it as you will.

Yeah a multi melta will kill two of my guys, a plasma cannon can obliterate all but my squad of 12 guys, and even then there will be some pain on that unit....

I can understand the 'hate' on special characters *glares at asurmen, eldrad, kharne, ghazgull......

but, even if they would give me a comp hit for it normally, I think they will still be getting over the lack of lash and just give me an auto 5 for comp ;D

[adreal]

*bump*

Oh and swaped the plasma cannon for a multi melta.....

Used the list in a game last night, well actually there was a one on one going on, against the guy I was supposed to fight, so I just joined in anyway....

First turn the plasma cannon fire frenzy's into a pred, but scatters off into nowhere.....

Big noise marine sqauds, over 3 turns saw off 7.5 warriors (damn cover)

Lucius could have been awesome, cept he was against a hive tyrant....really need to pick my fights better with him

All in all, not much I'de change.....maybe take some more range anti-tank (hence the multi melta dread) still, got a tournie in 3 (or 4) weeks, so that should be a good test for lords (the tournie this was built for)