[adreal]

Okay going to post up some lists for a peer based comp tournie that battle points pretty much count as half your total score (maybe 65% not too sure), ther will be cheesie lists and some non cheesie lists, what I'm asking is what list you think would do the best wit the highest comp (I know the twin lash will win, but it will be tnaked in comp)

So vote and please give reasons....

LIST 1 Same old thing
HQ
Daemon Prince
-Wings
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Warptime
=160pts
Daemon Prince
-Wings
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Warptime
=160pts
TROOPS
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
6 Noise Marines
-Champ with Doom Siren and Power Weapon
-Rhino
=200pts
6 Noise Marines
-Champ with Doom Siren and Power Weapon
-Rhino
=200pts
6 Chaos Marines
-1 Melta Gun
-Rhino with Combi Melta
=145pts
HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Obliterators
=225pts
Vindi
-Daemon Possession
-Combi Melta
=155pts
Pred
-Twin linked lascannons
-Heavy Bolters
=135pts
It's an okay list, but it's only a 3/5 in comp and the small troop units hurt alot....

LIST 2 something borrowed, something blue
HQ
Chaos Lord
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Twin Claws
-Combi Plasma
=135pts
Chaos Lord
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Death Screamer
=145pts
ELITES
5 Possessed
=130pts
TROOPS
8 Noise Marines
-Champ with Powerfist and Doom Siren
-Rhino
=250pts
6 Noise Marines
-5 sonics
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
10 Chaos Marines
-Icon of Tzeentch
-Plasmagun
-Lascannon
=225pts
10 Chaos Marines
-Icon of Tzeentch
-Plasmagun
-Autocannon
=215pts
HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Obliterators
=225pts
3 Obliterators
=225pts
The fluff would be the tzeentch marked units and the oblits are allies from the dark mechanicus, and my emperor's children are there to help them uncover some STC's and such.....would make for a different list, but it doesn't excite me......

LIST 3 Lustwing....
HQ
Terminator Lord
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Blissgiver
-Combi Plasma
=155pts
ELITES
6 Terminators
-6 Pairs of Claws
-Icon of Slaanesh
=255pts
6 Terminators
-5 Combi Plasma's
-1 Heavy Flamer
-Icon of Slaanesh
=225pts
TROOPS
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonics
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
8 Lesser Daemons
=104pts
7 Lesser Daemons
=91pts
7 Lesser Daemons
=91pts
HEAVY SUPPORT
3 Oblits
=225pts
3 Oblits
=255pts
Termie armies look like fun......and I get to daemon bomb as well.....

LIST 4 Somthing fun....
HQ
Lord
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Terminator Armour
-Combi Plasma
-Blissgiver
=155pts
ELITES
4 Terminator Champions
-4 Pairs of Lightning Claws
-Land Raider with Daemonic Possession
=455pts
TROOPS
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonic Blasters
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonic Blasters
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
6 Noise Marines
-5 Sonic Blasters
-1 Blastmaster
=185pts
8 Noise Marines
-Champ with Doom Siren and Powerfist
-Rhino
=250pts
FAST ATTACK
4 Chaos Bikers
-Icon of Slaanesh
-2 Flamers
-Champ with Power Weapon and Melta Bomb
=197pts
HEAVY SUPPORT
Predator
-Twin-linked Lascannon
-Heavy Bolters
=135pts

[Jeff]

List 3 or 4... Im inclined to say list 3 due to its higher anti tank.

[limpchickeninabizkit]

If small troops squads are bugging you, yet you wanna keep sacred numbers, why not take them in squads of 12? some more bodies, longer lasting, and will look good. I like 3 as well, but I'd probably take another icon in there to get your daemons up the board (The Noise Marines hold your obejctive I presume?) Maybe try a lord with wings and a squad of Slaanesh raptors to accompany him? Its a strong fast combat unit that can summon daemons onto enemy objectives down field...

[empty choke]

ok so any list would be a good way to go i would on to all three and use the according to your opponent's army. Now for list one! however the Vindicator=never give them Demonic possesion. no shaken or stunned for -1 BS, you need all you can get with a str.10 ap 1 AP mass killy-ness.

cheers!
-Puppyeater

[Jeff]

...

Are you...

Insane?

No possession on a vindi? WTF!

1" makes little difference if you scatter. And would you rather be shooting every turn with that templates or be shooting half the time but scattering 1" less. It is literally the best upgrade for a vindicator EVER.

[adreal]

Originally Posted by puppyeater

ok so any list would be a good way to go i would on to all three and use the according to your opponent's army. Now for list one! however the Vindicator=never give them Demonic possesion. no shaken or stunned for -1 BS, you need all you can get with a str.10 ap 1 AP mass killy-ness.

cheers!
-Puppyeater

while I can build all four, transporting would be a pain, unless your telling me to just take list three....

daemonic possession is damn near manditory for the vindi, and also land raiders. These are tanks you need moving and shooting, I honeslty don't know how vanilla marines survive with just extra armour.

Most would advise dropping the combi melta, which would make sense (but that one game where the cannon has gone and you need that melta shot to take out a tank.....)I mean it's ten points I'm rarely going to use and could be spent on giving a noise squad a powerfist

[empty choke]

true but with vindie set them up futhest away from your apponent yet close enough too still get hits over units.(as the demolisher cannon has only 24" range).
but with the land raider yes you need to charge it in with demonic possesion and shooting lascannon shots into anything that sounds the tastyess!
anyways.... i would actualy give the land raider to a unit of Terminators, and put 3 Vindicators up and just blow as many as you can clean of the board!
but careful now dont smeer to much as the maids tend to complain,
those blood stains dont like to come off tables to well

[Jeff]

I have no idea what he just said...

[limpchickeninabizkit]

Puppyeater, please stay on topic and don't ramble... I don't think anyone could follow what you were saying.

Puppyeater, why no possession on the Vindicator? The fact it is a pure shooting tank, the ability to pretty much ignore most glancing hits (4's becoming 2's etc) makes it near inpenetrable, and a great fire magnet.

[adreal]

Originally Posted by puppyeater

true but with vindie set them up futhest away from your apponent yet close enough too still get hits over units.(as the demolisher cannon has only 24" range).

um.....so are you saying to set them up so they are always in range? Um....yeah okay, and not to shoot targets near my own troops, seeing as (in list 1) units that are near targets will be assaulting (and screaming ;D) I think I'm right there, still.....handy to know.

but with the land raider yes you need to charge it in with demonic possesion and shooting lascannon shots into anything that sounds the tastyess!
anyways.... i would actualy give the land raider to a unit of Terminators, and put 3 Vindicators up and just blow as many as you can clean of the board!
but careful now dont smeer to much as the maids tend to complain,
those blood stains dont like to come off tables to well

The unit of termies (and lord) have a land raider (see list 4). In list 3 it would be pointless and the termie units are too big for them anyway. As for your advise, yes that would be a powerful list, espcially with lash, but I don't have the models.....