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Necrons Vs Thousand Sons 1500pts (01/23/2010)
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Old 23 Jan 2010, 13:27   #1 (permalink)
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Played three games last night, I am writing a battle report about one. I'll briefly explain the others in a preface.

My second game was against Orks, went badly for me on the second turn when his nobs and slugga boyz made it to my table edge and killed my tomb spider, both destroyer squads and one warrior squad in one turn. I managed to hold off well, wiping out a battlewagon, lootas and part of a kannon battery, but Zagstruck, the nobs and warboss and sluggas were too many targets for my depleted force to handle. I completely underestimated hos far a truck+Disembark+Waaaghh+Charge can move a unit, caught me totally off guard.

My third game was 2000pts vs orks. Based off of a new 1500pt list I made, to use all my destroyers. Basically was me utterly decimating him part-by-part. He was unprepared for the flank attack I pulled with my destroyer mob, which utterly eliminated his right flank in short time, while my warriors, lord, pariahs and flayed ones marched up the middle. The C'tan spent it's time gutting the center of the chaos army without much trouble.

So, here is my 1500pt list.

HQ
Deceiver.
Lord w/Destroyer body, warscythe, Gaze of Flame.
7 man unit of pariahs.
Two 10 man squads of warriors.
Two 3 man units of destroyers.
Two tomb spiders w/PPC.

His list was; (sorry for the vague descriptions, I cannot remember the unit sizes. I think all the units were 9 strong though, for theme).

Sorcerer with disc, winds of chaos, mark of Tzeentch
Dread w/twin-lascannon.
Two squads of thousand sons in rhinos, sorcerers with doom bolt.
Tri-las predator.
Defiler.
Two squads of lesser Daemons.

The mission was Dawn of War, with Kill Points. I won the First roll. Terrain will be visible in the pictures, but there was a bulding to my left (in the middle), woods on my right and the middle was mostly clear terrain.

I deployed my Deceiver right up in the middle of the table (For pushback), with the warriors deployed closer to my table edge to be close to my support units.

He deployed nothing.

Before the first turn, I use my Grand Illusion to re-deploy the C'tan closer to my Warriors.

First turn.

I move the warrior squads forward, destroyers deployed behind cover. Pariahs and my Lord come up the middle of my lines (hopefully warriors give them cover). Tomb spiders chill around my flanks. I mostly just run everything forward as there is little to shoot.

He brings in his force directly in front of my. Dread to the far right, in case of fire frenzy. The Rhinos rush forward and disembark the Thousand Sons, while the Sorcerer floats behind. The Pred, Defiler and Dread all shoot at the Deceiver, but I am protected by my high toughness and Inv. Save. The thousand sons shoot my Warriors, damaging a couple from each squad.



Second Turn

I manage to bring all my warriors back, besides one. at this point, I am not worried about anything but the Defiler. The thousand sons can knock me down, but I can get back up. While the defiler can easily nuke most my army in a couple of turns. The pariahs advance forward, as does the Spiders. Destroyers pop out to LoS of the Defiler. In hindsight, I should have just shot his troops with the destroyers, but I fired them all at the Defiler, producing no damage that couldn't be ignored with it's daemonic possession. The pariahs run forward a bit more, warriors hold back. At this point, Pariahs can die, but warriors cannot.

His thousand sons advance towards my legions, dread keeps creeping along the right flank, while the Sorcerer cautious creeps in the back. His Defiler fires an ordinance shell at my warriors on the right flank, but scatter and cover saves me from damage. A unit of Lesser Daemons pops out on the right side, in front of the thousand sons there. The thousand sons on the right fire at the Destroyers on my right, damaging one. The Thousand sons on the left flank, firing at the other Destroyer unit, damaging all three. Thank god for the tomb spiders.

Turn three

Four of the Destroyers remain, two phase back to the Tomb for repairs. The lord launches himself out of the pariah squad to the Thousand sons on the left, while one tomb spider hovers towards the lesser daemon pack. The C'tan is now well in my opponents lines. With the option of attacking pretty much any of his units, I move towards the thousand sons on the right. My idea is that I can misdirect out at the end of the turn and then charge the Defiler in my next turn and silence it. The destroyers I choose to shoot at the Defiler again, but still no damage. Warriors on the right shoot pointlessly at the dread, while the other Necron warrior squad runs a bit. Pariahs also run forwards (Spread their Soulless rule to as much of my opponents army I can, can affect his force weapons and lord). In assault, my spider charges the Lesser Daemons, the Lord charges the Thousand sons on the left, C'tan does likewise on the right. All combats go well, with my lord killing a couple of sons on the left, suffering no wounds in return (yay T6), While the Deciver kills three of the Rubric marines. The spider and pet kills one daemon, but suffer no wounds in return, thus the daemons end up loosing one more from no-retreat.



With my of my opponents units in combat, he las limited options. First, his lord regroups. The Dread moves towards me, while the sorcerer moves to charge my Lord. The second unit of lesser Daemons pop in. The defiler fires a blast at my warriors, but the shot scatters wild. In combat, the sorcerer charges my Lord, his Warp-Time didn't go off because of the Pariahs. My lord wins combat by two, putting the Sorcerer to LD4 (Pariahs +Gaze of Flame+Combat res), and he promptly flees combat. The new lesser Damon pack charges the Pariahs, killing one of my soulless abominations, while I scythe down two, winning combat. The Deceiver jumps out of combat next to the Defiler. Tombspider and Lesser Daemons slap each other (they do this for the rest of the game, so unless I say otherwise assume two lesser Daemons died an maybe I suffered a wound on a scarab or spider).



Turn 4

my moving is pretty much minimal. The unengaged Tomb spider then charges the new lesser Daemons, much fighting takes place, but lesser daemons survive. The lord manages to kill one more thousand son, but is then promptly phased when he's force weaponed by the Aspiring sorcerer. Deceiver charges and eliminates the Defiler.



In his turn, the thousand sons keep moving closer to me. The lord regroups, flies next to my Deceiver. The Thousand sons each fire at seperate units of warriors, knocking down about a half-dozen warriors combined. The Pred, Dread and Sorcerer all fire at the C'tan, knocking it down to one wound. Shock.




Turn 5.

Most of my warriors get back up. Destroyers and warriors fire at one of his thousand sons units, totally eliminating them. Leaving one squad. remaining. The C'tan charges and blows up the predator tank, while the Pariahs and Tomb Spider finishes off the last of the lesser daemons on the left flank, and consolidate to try and form a wall in front of the remanning squad of sons.




His thousand sons unit creeps along the left flank around the Spider and Pariahs. They fire at my left flank warrior squad, and drop one. The Dread Fails to finish off the Deceiver, but the Lords winds of chaos finally ruptures the C'tans Necrodermis. The Thousand sons then proceed to charge my left flank warrior squad, kill one with the force weapon, but thankfully I don't fail morale. The other lesser Deamon unit is killed by my tomb spider (finally).

Turn 6.

Basically, I spend the turn counter-charging the Thousand sons unit with my Pariahs and Tomb spider, wiping them out.



In his turn, his Lord is too far away, and his Dread fires at one of my warrior squads, Accomplishing little.

At this point the game ends.

[hr]

The end score was six to three Kill points, giving me an easy victory. I feel that there was more of a chance of damage from the defiler, if he had shot my warriors turn one, instead of the Deceiver. Granted, bad luck with scatter wouldn't have helped, I feel that this list I played is rather silly, this is the first time I was scared from my lack of a res-orb. Another victory for the Brotherhood of the spiraling worm.
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Old 25 Jan 2010, 06:59   #2 (permalink)
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As usual, a great read Grindgobble . You are quite good with those 'crons, cool to see someone do interesting stuff with such an outdated army, I take my hat off to you.

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Old 25 Jan 2010, 13:03   #3 (permalink)
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Whenever I read your reports I feel like fielding my long neglected Necron army. Poor guys have only seen the light of day once in the past year and half.

Anyway, good report and nicely done.
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Old 25 Jan 2010, 13:52   #4 (permalink)
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As usual, a great read Grindgobble . You are quite good with those 'crons, cool to see someone do interesting stuff with such an outdated army, I take my hat off to you.

Cheers!
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Thank you, I am still learning with them. The army offers up a lot of really cool units and wargear,which can take a while to get the hang of. The most esoteric units and items are a lot of fun. I am really enjoying the flexability of the list, and I love how every unit seems to be able to affect the game at any point. I also like how annoying hard they are to kill.

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Whenever I read your reports I feel like fielding my long neglected Necron army. Poor guys have only seen the light of day once in the past year and half.

Anyway, good report and nicely done.
Thank you, glad you liked the report. You should bust out the Necrons, I see no reason why not too. They are a very competitive army, and I've had no trouble going against any of the newer lists. Though, I am planning to put the Necrons aside for a bit so I can go back to my lovely-lovely Grey Knights who I've been neglecting.
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Another good one, and two painted armies on a nice board too. Some day I'll get there. I'll have to show my buddy your battreps too, cause he hasn't played his Necrons in ages either. I have only seen them a couple times in the last 12 months, but he did put together a tomb spider heavy list that is tough in 5th edition.

So, how did you like the often unused pariahs? I know most people think they are crap, but like flash gitz if used properly can be tactically viable.
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So, how did you like the often unused pariahs? I know most people think they are crap, but like flash gitz if used properly can be tactically viable.
Pariahs are awesome. If you already decided on the Deceiver, and don't mind spending the points, they are an amazing asset to your army. Problem being flayed ones, and the nightmare shroud don't work on fearless anything, the C'tan can still pin them (It's in the FAQ). Against not fearless armies, when they assault your flayed ones, and take leadership at Ld7. If they fail, they hit you on 6's! Hurrah! Also, the Nightmare shroud is a good and easy way to make lots of units break all at once. If you upgrade to a warscythe you aren't missing out of shooting either! THey aren't for all occasions, but if you can use them well in your list, they are a HUGE asset.
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Pariahs are great. They camped out in the middle of the board, and essentially locked down my opponent psychic powers. That combined with a lords Gaze of Flame, makes all my opponents LD6 too, which is doubly great. Awesome when combined with flayed ones. I plan to use a group of Pariahs in all my lists to come. The deceiver is just mean too, ha ha ha.
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