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Old 18 Apr 2008, 19:39   #1 (permalink)
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Well normally I think myself rather well read up on my 40k fluff at least in respects to the Imperium of man. But having begun some fluff regarding the Orders Pronatus. My knowledge is lacking most completely. As far as I know they are the Order of searching for lost artefacts. Apart from that it appears that there is no other real information to be had on the order. Is this so or am I not privy to a more complete source of fluff outlining their activities?

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Old 19 Apr 2008, 00:40   #2 (permalink)
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I just spent quite a while digging around, but I haven't been able to find much.

From here I found this:
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The Orders Pronatus specialise in retrieving, guarding, studying and repairing artefacts of value to the Ecclesiarchy. This includes the uncounted thousands of holy relics revered by the people of the Imperium, but also relates to items captured by Imperial forces which are too powerful or significant to be allowed to fall into enemy hands. They also have the responsibility of maintaining and blessing the many banners and symbols of Orders Militant, as well as being called upon to reconsecrate the livery of other Imperial bodies (such as the Chapter banner of the Lamenters Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes after its involvement in the Badab Uprising, the banner now called the Banner of Tears). Some Orders Pronatus are known to have given all in the defence of the artefacts they guard or study, and the fate of the Order of Blessed Enquiry is a salutory lesson in the risks involved with the evil of the Ruinous Powers, even if the intent is to safeguard Humanity from their corrupting influence.
Also, from what I can tell, they're an order of the Adepta Sororitas, much like the Orders Dialogous and then Orders Famulous. Otherwise there's really not much out there, it seems.

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Old 19 Apr 2008, 09:50   #3 (permalink)
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I just spent quite a while digging around, but I haven't been able to find much.

From here I found this:
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The Orders Pronatus specialise in retrieving, guarding, studying and repairing artefacts of value to the Ecclesiarchy. This includes the uncounted thousands of holy relics revered by the people of the Imperium, but also relates to items captured by Imperial forces which are too powerful or significant to be allowed to fall into enemy hands. They also have the responsibility of maintaining and blessing the many banners and symbols of Orders Militant, as well as being called upon to reconsecrate the livery of other Imperial bodies (such as the Chapter banner of the Lamenters Chapter of the Adeptus Astartes after its involvement in the Badab Uprising, the banner now called the Banner of Tears). Some Orders Pronatus are known to have given all in the defence of the artefacts they guard or study, and the fate of the Order of Blessed Enquiry is a salutory lesson in the risks involved with the evil of the Ruinous Powers, even if the intent is to safeguard Humanity from their corrupting influence.
Also, from what I can tell, they're an order of the Adepta Sororitas, much like the Orders Dialogous and then Orders Famulous. Otherwise there's really not much out there, it seems.

Best of luck finding something,

-Grandpa Ducky
Yeah I already knew their affiliations with the battlesisters. But it appears that I might have to write some of the first fluff for that particular order. :-\.

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Old 20 Apr 2008, 21:02   #4 (permalink)
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I suppose you could go down one of two routes with them. You could make your Order a militant order, and have them crusading the galaxy recovering lost relics and battling heretics to get them (think AdMech do with newly found STC's ) or you could go down the background route, and not field an army of Sisters at all, but rather field an Imperial army sympathetic to their cause, like an Inquisitor and his "bodyguard" .

Heck you could spawn an entire fluff plot arch just from that idea lol, with an Inquisitor seeking to destroy a cursed banner, whereas an Order from Order Pronatus is trying to recover it and the inevitably spill over (I could just imagine and Inquisitor and Canoness fighting over a bit of possessed clothe, them ripping it and a greater daemon of chaos popping out and spoiling everyone's day ;D)
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Old 20 Apr 2008, 23:06   #5 (permalink)
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It's not that quite of purpose I'm afraid. I was looking up background material to insure what I write is congruent with what is already out there.

The reason being is that I've taken a little known part of a rather well known group and trying to give it some life rather than those odd little trivia details on the side.

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Is regarding an outpost for a order of the Pronatus. Where from they are detailing 'archaeological' digs. For something. They have support from the Inquisition and Commissarate for this purpose and are being quite ruthless in their approach to unearthing these secrets. However into this we mix a bit of Tau Aun babbling about the location of 'the truth' which sets about a renewed fervour to the digs.

Add to all this a certain amount of actually finding the 'truth' which is actually an Eldar ploy to unearth something else (not giving the game away), but there you go. It's not so much I need a plot line, its being constant with whats come before. Which is very little.

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As you've all noted, I think that this is pretty much a blank slate. I pride myself on my fluff knowledge and I must admit that, other than in passing, I've read next to nothing on this mysterious order of shovel toting Imperials. ???
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Old 28 May 2008, 21:17   #7 (permalink)
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Well, there is a shred of information that deals with them in a lexicanum file:

Ephrael Stern

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...she was sent to the world of Parnis for an investigation into the lost convent of the Orders Pronatus. Whatever happened there remains a mystery. Only Sister Stern returned, the sole survivor of the forces sent there, with her sanity stretched to the limit.

The Inquisition subsequently sent in Inquisitor Silas Hand to investigate what happened on Parnis. During this investigation Hand was killed and again, Sister Stern was the sole survivor of the expedition. She is currently hunted by the Ordo Malleus. Though the Ordo believes she presents an extreme danger to the Imperium, and has issued orders for her destruction some members the Ordo think she might be Mankind's greatest hope since the Primarchs...
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That still gives us nothing to go on other that the fact Ephreal Stern was involved with them. It still tells us nothing about what the order actually was, what it did.
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That still gives us nothing to go on other that the fact Ephreal Stern was involved with them. It still tells us nothing about what the order actually was, what it did.
What it does. I'd guess (and I've written it this way) that they are an order that works alongside AdMech and Inquisition forces to sanctify uncovered artifacts. If you will they provide the muscle for archaeological digs and discoveries acting out of small bases about two or three in each segmentum (thus explaining the fact that their are so few of them, and because leads would be few and far between).

Other than that they take up actions just like the Orders Militant should the need arise, which also goes to why they are so unremarked because they are just as equip as other more common orders of the Adepta Sororitas.

Furthermore they are more likely to be diplomatic about achieving their mission by utilising/manipulating other forces of the Imperium to do so, rather than jumping in guns blazing from the outset.

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Given their position as sororitas I wouldn't think that they would be responsible for the majority of the diplomacy, rather they would most likely mediate this role to the ecclesiarchy. It would make more sense in thier role as sisters of battle to provide a 'visual aid' in negotiations, the mere presence of a cannonness in a room is probably enough to convince many people not to argue.

As you say they are probably used in many cases in a bodyguard role. The problem here is that I don't see them as an order militant. I see them as being more akin to the orders hospitaler, becoming much more adept at their archeological role than the less called for militant role.
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