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Old 29 Apr 2007, 21:48   #1 (permalink)
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When a new Chapter of the Space Marines is formed, who is placed in charge? It would make sense to me that a Captain from another chapter would be given the honor of becoming Chapter Master of the new legion, but I just wanted to make sure.

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Old 30 Apr 2007, 01:37   #2 (permalink)
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I dunno if there is anything difinitive on it, but I doubt it would be a leader from another chapter since in many cases he wouldn't share the same gene seed as his comrades that he has to lead. Many of the new chapters gene seed has been tinkered with or is a mix, trying to weed out the impurities of specific lines. Which in some cases led to disaster such as in the cursed 21st founding. I assume a chapter being newly created undergoes an extended training and recruitment regime and fights under the guidance of an existing chapter till its grown to full strength and a suitably experienced warrior has emerged to become the new chapters master. At least thats what I imagine the process to be.
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Old 30 Apr 2007, 02:18   #3 (permalink)
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Often times it's a great philosopher or warrior who leads a new chapter, as was in the cases of the Soul Drinkers and the Black Templar
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Old 30 Apr 2007, 02:35   #4 (permalink)
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Right, but where does this great warrior come from?

I'm thinking that my chapter is going to be founded with Iron Hands geneseed, and that the Chapter Master will have been a former Iron Hands leader of some kind. That way, there would be no difference in gene-seed. The Master would have distinguished himself quite heroically in some battle or another (already planning that one) and, as an honor, will have been given leadership of the new Chapter, under the watchful eye of the Iron Hands, of course.

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Right, but where does this great warrior come from?

I'm thinking that my chapter is going to be founded with Iron Hands geneseed, and that the Chapter Master will have been a former Iron Hands leader of some kind. That way, there would be no difference in gene-seed. The Master would have distinguished himself quite heroically in some battle or another (already planning that one) and, as an honor, will have been given leadership of the new Chapter, under the watchful eye of the Iron Hands, of course.

Ah that is quite possible, I've seen that done before. In fact one of my friends Marines (the Confessors) has an Imperial Fist for their chapter master.
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I have two theories.

The first is that all Marines undergo intensive training as soon as they are created, and as such by the time the Chapter is at full strength, the first batch will have been prepared for years for war. Many may well have seen real combat, and it is from these that the Chapter's command structure is formed.

The second is, as suggested, someone from another Chapter is selected.
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Right, but where does this great warrior come from?

I'm thinking that my chapter is going to be founded with Iron Hands geneseed, and that the Chapter Master will have been a former Iron Hands leader of some kind. That way, there would be no difference in gene-seed. The Master would have distinguished himself quite heroically in some battle or another (already planning that one) and, as an honor, will have been given leadership of the new Chapter, under the watchful eye of the Iron Hands, of course.

My space marine chapter has too been founded with the iron hands gene-seed many of my veterans and "chapter master" where iron hands to beging with. there are also boarding a renagade title but I wont go into it here.

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Old 30 Apr 2007, 20:24   #8 (permalink)
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It is possible that there is a sort of temporary command structure formed in this case, perhaps drawn from pseudo-chapters loyal to the High Lords and whatever entity is responsible for their creation. Space Marines are generally somewhat independent from the normal government of the Imperium, but that can not be as much the case with a newly-founded unit that still depends on the Administratum for all of their equipment initial training.
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Old 01 May 2007, 16:23   #9 (permalink)
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I imagine that "successor" chapters are still periodically spawned.

Perhaps they've decided that they need a new chapter with a skill set and philosophy similar to the iron hands in a certain part of the galaxy. They go to the iron hands and one of their company masters is given the honour of founding the new chapter. He leaves with a small group of dedicated veterans, perhaps 10-20 members of his former company. They form the command structure of the newly founded chapter which uses the Iron Hands geneseed.

Just one possibility. I'm sure it does vary quite a lot in different instances.
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I imagine that chapter leadership early on is sort of a "splinter" of whoever they are descended from. The actual rank and file marines are new recruits, but at least the chapter master is probably a captain from their parent chapter.
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