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Old 15 Mar 2007, 16:40   #1 (permalink)
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Hello folks,

This is one of the many real secrets finden in the game. I have a compairing list, then an area with explainations.

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Emperor Jesus

Imortal Imortal
Rules from Terra. Rules heaven and Earth
Has Space Marines Has Angels
Has many different sects. Same here
Slays Horus Casts down Satan and death
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 16:51   #2 (permalink)
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Now the explaining part,

Both the Emperor and Jesus live forever and are constantly fighting evil.
Both rule Earth, Terra means "Earth" in Latin. They both have people who have great power that fight for them. Example: You are in a small unit at the end of time and you are surrounded by the Devil's forces, then out of nowhere pop up Angels with swords and holy words, who drive the evil back with just hand full there. Next you are in a Imperial Guard position on a backward world with no commuications or back up surrounded by xenos. Then suddenly three tactial squads of space marines appear beside and kill off a force 10 times there number. There are Basptists, Orthadox, etc. etc. Christians worshipping Jesus, and there are different sects who worship the Emperor. In the Bible, Jesus defeats the Devil and his minions, and casts them into the lake of fire. The Emperor slays the Tratior Horus, Warmaster of Chaos, to defeat the Chaos threat to the Empire. This is my explaination of the matter, so go ahead and tell your friends that Warhammer 40,000 is a Christian game.
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 16:54   #3 (permalink)
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You are confusing the toles of Jesus and god. Jesus is not immortal, in fact he dies in the end. He does not rule heaven, god does. Etc.

Also Horus = Satan. The Chaos Space Marines = Fallen Angels. Chaos Gods = Temptation. Xenos = Other religions.
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:02   #4 (permalink)
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Jesus in imortal, and the Son of man, who will return to rule the earth, for He is part God and man. He is part of the holy Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:06   #5 (permalink)
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There are definate similarities, but it was the same with Neo from the matrix. Using religious figures as inspiration for characters has been going on since we developed the imagination to tell any kind of story. Hell, it probably happened before the mud hut was invented!
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:13   #6 (permalink)
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You are confusing the toles of Jesus and god. Jesus is not immortal, in fact he dies in the end. He does not rule heaven, god does. Etc.
Aww damnit! Way to spoil the ending for me.

Seriously though this is a topic I know I shouldn't touch

but...

Yes there's some obvious similarities. When creating a mythical universe with its own legends its easy and even smart to draw upon preexisting myths and stories that people are already familiar with.

The struggle of good vs. evil is a very common archetype, and the role of a benevolent divine protector is also very common. That a game designed in the west draws strongly on one of the most well known and common stories is no suprise
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:17   #7 (permalink)
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Jesus in imortal, and the Son of man, who will return to rule the earth, for He is part God and man. He is part of the holy Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

Jesus = Nailed to cross.

Emperor= Not nailed to cross.

Uh, why are you trying to even rationalize this topic?
It's a game, The Emperor = Humans, Humans rule the universe.. Its a Human story, not a religious story.

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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:30   #8 (permalink)
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I think the main difference here is this:

Jesus was born to suffer for our sins, and in doing so save us.

The Emperor was not. He went out and united the galaxy, then Horus turned against him and the rest is history. (which is more like Lucifer and God, when he rebelled and was cast out)

In addition, to have a place by the emperor's side you need to be human and loyal to the Emperor.

"Assuredly I say to you, I have not found such great faith, not even in Israel! And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast out into outer darkness. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." (Matthew 8:10-12)

The Inquisition isn't so keen of letting faithfull individuals dine with the emperor, no matter how great their faith is.

"For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15)

The inquisition will also kill you if you tresspass, not forgive you.


So no, 40K is not a Christian game, though there are similarities. and the emperor is not Jesus
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:33   #9 (permalink)
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I think it'd be more appropriate to say "Emporer = Nailed to a toilet."

Why else do they call it the Golden Throne?
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 17:46   #10 (permalink)
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But the emperor didn't come back to life
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