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The Mothman · 20 Apr 2006, 22:42

From what I know, they are Eldar who left the craftworlds before the Fall. My question,
Are they ranged fighters, or CC fighters?

I ask becasue I want any Eldar, but preferably Dark, as I want CC, but I want then to be Exodites.

Thanks,
The Mothman

MechTau · 21 Apr 2006, 01:47

Exodites don't fight. They die. Then, Bien-Tal saves them.

Lomendil · 21 Apr 2006, 01:53

Exodites are actually highly capable fighters, on smaller scales. They could compete with everything up to a determined Imperial assault. Don't forget that they have the Eldar Knight clans backing them up (small Titan walkers), and those can run rings around any Imperial Armoured formation. On an infantry level, the rough jungle terrain of Maiden Worlds always favours a defender, which will invariably be the Eldar.

The Dragon-riders - not to be confused with Eldar Knights, which are like oversized Wraithlords - are the only really well-known unit (other than the aforementioned Knights). Many see them as being 'lances forwards and charge!' types, but I think that's bunk - they'd be much more likely to fight like steppe nomads (Huns, Mongols, Tatars, etc), fighting evasively with ranged weapons until the enemy is weakened, and only then charging in with laser lance. That would suit them much better, both in terms of the Eldar mindset and plain old common sense.

The Mothman · 21 Apr 2006, 01:58

So DE would work best for an Exodite army?

Lomendil · 21 Apr 2006, 03:09

I don't think DE fit well, or Craftworlders either.

See, Exodites are famed for Cavalry, and none of the Eldar lists have much in the way of cavalry units. Warp Beasts for Dark Eldar... and that's it. 40k is light on Cavalry in general, really.

Some people suggest Saim-hann, fielding Jetbikes as Dragon Knights, but to me it just doesn't fit - lizards can't fly, and they certainly aren't as fast as speeding jetbikes using turbo-boost... Pterodactyl mounted Exodites, perhaps.

Perhaps proxying with the Tyranid ruleset would work best. It sounds strange, but they do have some big perks in this context. 'Leaping' fits lance-wielding Cavalry to a tee, IMHO. Hormagaunts upgraded to the nines come closest to actual massed cavalry than anything in the game (other than Rough Riders, which are limited and need a whole IG army behind them anyway...). Larger 'Nid monsters can represent Exodites on bigger dinos, with guns slung on howdahs and what-not. Synapse might take some explaining, but you can always flick together some story about 'spirit chanellers' using the ancestral spirits in the Worldstone (like an infinity circuit) to embolden the warriors.

AuinMyrrath · 21 Apr 2006, 03:27

The idea of using Tyranids is a stroke of genius, I'd never considered that.

http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=10468.0
Alternatively, you could try one of the unofficial Exodite lists...
(or just look at them and see what existing list fits the bill best).

crazedmongoose2003 · 21 Apr 2006, 07:53

Mechtau, if you ever saw a picture of a Towering Destroyer knight you wouldn't say that. Its like 10 times the size of a wraithlord. And they have those things in entire clans in the way Titans are in legions. (There's also the bright stallion knight and one other type, but those models are only in Epic as far as I know)

Voodoo Jim · 22 Apr 2006, 01:21

check the chapter aproved creature feature for riding beasts and include a whole bunch in your eldar army
official AND legal

20 Apr 2006, 22:42	#1 (permalink)
The Mothman Shas'El Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canadian Maritimes Posts: 2,210	Exodites From what I know, they are Eldar who left the craftworlds before the Fall. My question, Are they ranged fighters, or CC fighters? I ask becasue I want any Eldar, but preferably Dark, as I want CC, but I want then to be Exodites. Thanks, The Mothman __________________ Man, this origami dream is beautiful, but those wings will never leave the ground without a feather and a lottery ticket.

21 Apr 2006, 01:47	#2 (permalink)
MechTau Shas'El Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Francisco Posts: 3,432	Re: Exodites Exodites don't fight. They die. Then, Bien-Tal saves them. __________________ Watch me rebuild my army! - Now with pics of my new scheme! Open invitation to all: Send me a pm, and I'll be have a look at your army list. [url=http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=11198.0]Crisis Suit Theory, Army Composition, and why Fireknives suck - You've got to read this classic by T0nka

21 Apr 2006, 01:53	#3 (permalink)
Lomendil Shas'Vre Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hell (Mon-Fri), Heaven (Sat-Sun) Posts: 1,866	Re: Exodites Exodites are actually highly capable fighters, on smaller scales. They could compete with everything up to a determined Imperial assault. Don't forget that they have the Eldar Knight clans backing them up (small Titan walkers), and those can run rings around any Imperial Armoured formation. On an infantry level, the rough jungle terrain of Maiden Worlds always favours a defender, which will invariably be the Eldar. The Dragon-riders - not to be confused with Eldar Knights, which are like oversized Wraithlords - are the only really well-known unit (other than the aforementioned Knights). Many see them as being 'lances forwards and charge!' types, but I think that's bunk - they'd be much more likely to fight like steppe nomads (Huns, Mongols, Tatars, etc), fighting evasively with ranged weapons until the enemy is weakened, and only then charging in with laser lance. That would suit them much better, both in terms of the Eldar mindset and plain old common sense. __________________ We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me. If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. [i]All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense. - A public service clarification by the Sri Syadasti School of Spiritual Wisdom

21 Apr 2006, 01:58	#4 (permalink)
The Mothman Shas'El Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Canadian Maritimes Posts: 2,210	Re: Exodites So DE would work best for an Exodite army? __________________ Man, this origami dream is beautiful, but those wings will never leave the ground without a feather and a lottery ticket.

21 Apr 2006, 03:09	#5 (permalink)
Lomendil Shas'Vre Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hell (Mon-Fri), Heaven (Sat-Sun) Posts: 1,866	Re: Exodites I don't think DE fit well, or Craftworlders either. See, Exodites are famed for Cavalry, and none of the Eldar lists have much in the way of cavalry units. Warp Beasts for Dark Eldar... and that's it. 40k is light on Cavalry in general, really. Some people suggest Saim-hann, fielding Jetbikes as Dragon Knights, but to me it just doesn't fit - lizards can't fly, and they certainly aren't as fast as speeding jetbikes using turbo-boost... Pterodactyl mounted Exodites, perhaps. Perhaps proxying with the Tyranid ruleset would work best. It sounds strange, but they do have some big perks in this context. 'Leaping' fits lance-wielding Cavalry to a tee, IMHO. Hormagaunts upgraded to the nines come closest to actual massed cavalry than anything in the game (other than Rough Riders, which are limited and need a whole IG army behind them anyway...). Larger 'Nid monsters can represent Exodites on bigger dinos, with guns slung on howdahs and what-not. Synapse might take some explaining, but you can always flick together some story about 'spirit chanellers' using the ancestral spirits in the Worldstone (like an infinity circuit) to embolden the warriors. __________________ We tend to scoff at the beliefs of the ancients. But we can't scoff at them personally, to their faces, and this is what annoys me. If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. [i]All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense, meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense. - A public service clarification by the Sri Syadasti School of Spiritual Wisdom

21 Apr 2006, 03:27	#6 (permalink)
AuinMyrrath Shas'O Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 9,807	Re: Exodites The idea of using Tyranids is a stroke of genius, I'd never considered that. http://forums.tauonline.org/index.php?topic=10468.0 Alternatively, you could try one of the unofficial Exodite lists... (or just look at them and see what existing list fits the bill best).

21 Apr 2006, 07:53	#7 (permalink)
crazedmongoose2003 Shas'O Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Sydney Aus Posts: 7,853	Re: Exodites Mechtau, if you ever saw a picture of a Towering Destroyer knight you wouldn't say that. Its like 10 times the size of a wraithlord. And they have those things in entire clans in the way Titans are in legions. (There's also the bright stallion knight and one other type, but those models are only in Epic as far as I know) __________________ Holding a Tau Online Vassal League, click here for more info: http://forums.tauonline.org/index.ph...c,86474.0.html

22 Apr 2006, 01:21	#8 (permalink)
Voodoo Jim Shas'La Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 369	Re: Exodites check the chapter aproved creature feature for riding beasts and include a whole bunch in your eldar army official AND legal __________________ "He may say he fights for the greater good but we know tat his kind cannot be trusted" "His name doesn't make any sense! How can you be a commander, Aun AND volenteer at the same time!?!" translated parts of suspicous conversation about the Mal'caor'la 8.05.10990

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