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Old 19 Oct 2008, 03:31   #8 (permalink)
GoneFishing
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Default Re: @ bodyguards and skimmers.

Not really, its no different to an independant character joining a unit. If the unit he is with is killed - thats 1kp, if you then kill him, thats 2 kp.

The retinue are a "Unit" - one that you normally buy seperate from your force organisation chart (as it comes with the HQ) - but still a unit none the less.

I can see why some Tau players dont like it - after all generally we get to take 2 crisis suits as a Bodyguard, which makes 2KP for a unit of 3 models quite easy to achieve. However, some Armies can have huge retinues and it seems alot fairer if you are blasting through 9 or 10 models - then killing the army HQ.

From a Tau Point of you, if you were stupi....er....I mean brave enough to take an Ethereal, and give him a Honour Guard of 12 Vet Firewarriors - You would have a unit of 12 FW (retinue) and a HQ. - This would be worth 2 KPts - one for the 12 FW and one for the HQ.

Now, if you just moved your Ethereal into a unit of 12 normal FW, and joined them, the unit is still worth 2KPts - This would be worth 2 KPts - one for the 12 FW and one for the HQ.

The only difference really is the Commanders retunue are not scoring, and the commander cant be singled out in CC/Shooting as he becomes an Ugrade Character.

You could also look at Farsight and his seven Samurai. 7 Crisis Bodyguards. You can field a Farsight unit with drones that costs over 1000pts in your army list, and has 22 models in it (7 suits, 14 drones, 1 HQ) - This unit (fothe same reason) is worth only 2 KPpts - But in order to get them your enemy has to kill 21 models, then your HQ.

I think this is a fair rule, maybe not great for Tau with 2 BG suits, but fair. Especially when you look at some of the retinues available to some army lists. And its no different to a IC joing a unit, (apart from you get your extra unit from outside the FOC chart).
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